Unfortunately have not hooked up with a carp yet. The lake where I am fishing is fairly dark weedy bottom so I often do not see the fish until they are quite close. Usually they seem to see me about the same time. I haven't focussed on them much as of late and I gather they do require a fair amount of persistence. I have a friend who has been seeing them mudding in a local river so hope to give them a shot at some point. I'm not giving up and look forward to gleaning additional insights into the ways of the carp from you Quentin.