I have some of these hooks. I got them downtown at Stoddards I think. Sharp has h e double hockey sticks out of the box. I don't really like the way the point heads back towards the shank slightly. I feel it reduces the gap a tiny bit. But I think I'm just being picky. I really never fished any good hooks until the end of last year. 95% of my flies are still on Mustad 3407 or 34007's. Only time will tell if the finish holds up to the salt though.