Thanks to all of you. I don't think I can hit all the secret places but is sure is great to get all these replies. I intend to make it up that way and I have read about many of these places. I have developed a couple of flies that some friends of mine have been using up on the Frasier River and they keep me busy tying them. I hope to try them up on the Rogue or Deschutes in the next season. Steelies are what I am after, but the Salmon would surely be a great thing too. Any time for both where you can get good action?