I agree with ABCD. Back in the stone age (early '70's) my first quality rod was a 7ft, 5wt glass Fenwick. I could make this cast work( slow action) but it was useless if I needed to make a accurate cast to a rising trout with a dry fly. Also, a long leader really makes this cast impractical. I find that this cast is more of a novelty and less of a strategy.