Thank you for the great info. We are staying in Idleyld Park for 2 days and this may be my best chance to fish early and late as you remarked as we are staying right on the river. The kids are 8,11 and 13 so they have a little staying power and all fly fish. I have been reading about the North Umpqua and I like my spot just downstream from Rock Creek as well as the Steamboat area . I agree just to fish these waters will be great I sure would like to add a searun steelie to my photo album. Well thaks for the great info.