Rich was running that Rio on a 10wt rod and it was not really loading the rod unless you false cast a lot of line. I liked the finish on the Rio line but didn't get a chance to try it on my 9wt. I have the cortland 9wt and can say so far so good now that I'm getting a clue on how to cast (Thanks Juro). I'd say the clear is a bit limp compared to the standard intermediates but it shoots like greased lightning. Rich is currently without a computer so I'll relay the message. Just shoot me an email with the ship to address for the Rio.