Ok, the natural progression is catching up with me. I have been Fly Fishing for a couple of years now and want to start tying flies. I primarily fish for trout, with the occasional outing for crappie/blue gill with my son. I have looked at the Dan-Vise and the Dyna-King Kingfisher. (both are comperable in price). I am just not sure which way to go. I do not have a fly shop within about an hour and a half from where I live, so I would appreciate any and all comments on these two vises.