I will give a final plug for Cabelas. I virtually live in the thing on my spring salmon trips up north where it NEVER fails to rain at least 30% of the trip. I also abuse it out on the salt water as well from both shore and boat--boat being where it takes the extreme beating--and it has been great. In the future I hope to have a seperate saltwater jacket as I think it shortens the life span of the jacket overall. My bro has the LL Bean coat, about 3 yrs old, and loves it as well. Happy hunting.