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fishheadfred 02-21-2003 11:44 PM

Smallmouth Maniacs
 
Living in the Great Bluegrass State, my options for steelheading, bonefishing, and coho chase are limited to say the least. I live a short drive from the Cumberlad River which is by rputation the best trout fishery in the south. One would think that this would make me a very happy young man, but one would be wrong...where are all of my kindred souls looking for that monster smallie?

Greg Pavlov 02-22-2003 03:22 AM

Quote:

...where are all of my kindred souls looking for that monster smallie?
They're getting ready for carp fishing.

[Oh. Am I in the wrong movie ?]

Adrian 02-22-2003 08:00 AM

Lots of Smallie fans here Fred and Carp fans too Greg!

Look back over some of last seasons threads, especially Quentins and you'll see a lot of interest in pursuing the "Freshwater Bonefish" on fly.

Dble Haul 02-22-2003 12:09 PM

Smallmouth maniac? Guilty as charged. They're truly one of my favorite species, and I can't wait to get back after them.

Danbo 02-22-2003 12:19 PM

I've been tying up some hopeful smallie-slayers lately. A lead-eyed olive Zonker with an orange chenille wrapped body, and I use red wire to wrap the front half of the rabbit strip "matuka-style" to the hook.Leave about 1.5" strip hanging past hook bend as a wiggly tail.
I'm hoping another of my creations will be good too; it's a weighted minnow; mylar-tubing body, crystal polar-type hair wing, chartruese flashabou strands for an overwing, black thread head & a red yarn tuft at the throat. Looks good enuff to eat to me! LOL! Cheers, Dan'l
Lotsa places up here for bass in Ontario.

cohocola 02-22-2003 11:27 PM

Smallmouth Bass
 
I catch and release more smallmouth on yellow body/white hackle woolie-bugger (size #8) than any other fly.

The smallies at Beaver Creek State Park in South-East Ohio just slam that fly...:devil:

I caught a few 18+ inch smallmouth there, but mostly in the 12-16 inch range. :D

I like to fish then just before the dam, right where the water bulges at the rock shelf, it's a smallmouth bananza... :hehe:

I also had limited luck using a purple rabbit strip zonker type fly, these seem to do well during heavy overcast days and just at sunrise and sunsets.

Quentin 02-24-2003 06:11 PM

I love the aggressive hit and acrobatic fight of the smallies. There's a pretty good population in a few of the local lakes and rivers, but I haven't found any good methods for catching them consistently and I usually only catch them "by accident". It's always a treat to have one of those bronze footballs bouncing around on the end of my line!

Q

Danbo 02-24-2003 06:30 PM

Sometimes you gotta finesse 'em with crappie-sized lilttle wet flys or streamers or nymphs! Sight fishing to one you can actually see also, makes it easier to tease the bugger to hit! Cheers.

Dble Haul 02-24-2003 09:42 PM

Here's a piece of advice that I learned a long time ago.....

If you want to catch big smallmouths (i.e., bigger than 16"), leave the small flies at home. While downsized flies have their moments, you'll catch the attention of more big fish more consistently with bigger flies.

Seems obvious enough, but I didn't start catching large smallies until I really adopted this attitude. What a difference!

jfbasser 03-06-2003 10:46 AM

Dble is right. It has been well known for years in tournament circles that NE smallmouths eat big baits.

smallmouth 03-11-2003 09:59 PM

Smallmouth Bass
 
Hi,

Just joined the board last week. Looking forward to comparing notes with fellow fly fishers. In the past I've been successful catching smallies on ultralight jigs using my spinning reel. One of the patterns that worked really well was suggestive of a crayfish(hackle feather tail, bugger-type body and a flared collar of two or three bunches of deerhair). On a light jighead this deerhair collar made the jig approach a neutral buoyancy. Knowing that the crayfish is high on the smallmouth's wish list, what representative type crayfish patterns do you use? I do not like fishing complicated realistic patterns as I find them far less effective and too time consuming to tie. Heads up to Danbo a fellow resident of Southern Ontario for listing this flyfishing for pike site on another board. I think many of you will find it interesting.
http://www.pikeflyfishing.co.uk/

smallmouth 03-11-2003 10:11 PM

Smallmouth/Pike
 
Perch Streamers
These images come from a site dedicated to catching pike on a flyrod.

Downsize these a little and I'm sure big "smallies would be more than interested.


http://www.accony.co.uk/PFF/Flies/BIG_PERCH2.jpghttp://www.accony.co.uk/PFF/Flies/BIG_PERCH.jpg

Dble Haul 03-12-2003 08:53 AM

Re: Smallmouth Bass
 
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Originally posted by smallmouth
Knowing that the crayfish is high on the smallmouth's wish list, what representative type crayfish patterns do you use? I do not like fishing complicated realistic patterns as I find them far less effective and too time consuming to tie.
Welcome! If you prefer crayfish flies that are effective and simple to tie, then you really can't go wrong with a brown over orange (or similar crayfish color) clouser bounced along the bottom. They're cheap and quick to tie, which matters a lot because when fished correctly you'll be losing some to snags (even with the hook riding up).

smallmouth 03-12-2003 11:37 AM

Brown Clousers
 
Thanks Dble Haul,

I read that somwhere as well. I'm going to have to give them a try. Do you always fish the traditional bucktail clouser or have you tried tying them with marabou?

Dble Haul 03-12-2003 01:22 PM

I've tried them with bucktail, marabou, unique hair, and super hair. Naturally the two synthetic materials are more durable, but for the most part I stick with bucktail. I've not really seen a difference in success between any of the materials.

For a change of pace, do a search in the Striper Archive for "Deep Eel". This is a pattern developed by Juro for stripers, but downsized a tad it has worked for me on smallies.


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