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cohocola 12-28-2002 10:07 AM

it's all for KNOT
 
Pick your favorite fly/tippit knot, and tell why it's your favorite.

1. CRAWFORD KNOT
2. TRILENE KNOT
3. IMPROVED CLINCH KNOT
4. ORVIS KNOT
5. UNI-KNOT
6. IMPROVED TURLE KNOT

juro 12-28-2002 11:45 AM

Mine depends on the application; a double turle for loop eyes, and the palomar for everything else!

Eddie 12-28-2002 02:27 PM

Lefty's no slip for loops and an unimproved clinch for everything else.

FrenchCreek 12-28-2002 09:35 PM

Improved Clinch because I can never remember how to tie the rest!
Also, because I mainly fish for trout and this is a good enough knot.

BobK 12-29-2002 09:52 AM

Improved clinch, but.....
 
I use the knot for the situation. Most times, an improved clinch knot for tippet-to-fly is a good knot.

I recently read an article on fluorocarbon, where a "premium" company did extensive testing (very scientific, using an Instron recording tensile tester), and they specify a standard 6-turn clinch knot as being the strongest. They also were very specific about wetting the knot, and pulling it tight with a "jerk" (the action, not your fishing buddy) for best results, as it is very susceptible to thermal (friction) damage. The results were also very repetitive. I now use that knot for fluorocarbon, and have found that it is a good knot for the application.

Interestingly, they also recommend the four-turn surgeon's knot for attaching the fluorocarbon tippet to the mono leader. It works well, using the wetting/tightening action described above. Prior to that I had problems with tippets breaking at their junction knot.

I also use other knots for specific applications and other types of fishing.

BobK

fredaevans 12-29-2002 02:19 PM

I'm with Bob on this one.
 
"Interestingly, they also recommend the four-turn surgeon's knot for attaching the fluorocarbon tippet to the mono leader. It works well, using the wetting/tightening action described above. Prior to that I had problems with tippets breaking at their junction knot"

To build leaders I'll use a good old barrel knot, to attach tippet materials (especially if it's going to be fluorocarbon) with a tripple sugeon's knot. Interesting the 'do it quick' part on snugging up the pieces. That I didn't know.
fae

pmflyfisher 12-29-2002 02:44 PM

Improved clinch, trilene knot, Duncan knot (nymphs)
surgeons knot (3x and 4x), not sure about the improved clinch though for fluro carbons yet, lost a couple of steelhead due to that knot using fluor carbon. Might have been me ? :confused:

Suppose to pull the knot quickly together for the flour carbons in order for it to tighten correctly.

I need to practice that, put that on my to do list.

Prepare yourself before you get to the water !

PM Out

Dble Haul 12-30-2002 09:57 AM

None of the above.....
 
The knot that I use the most often is the non-slip loop knot. I use this for almost every single salt water fly that I tie on, and for all large freshwater streamers and topwater patterns. For smaller stuff like nymphs and dries, I use the regular turtle knot.

Moonlight 12-30-2002 11:24 AM

Improved clinch
 
I've trusted my life to this knot using it to tie life lines and anchor gear when using Samson Braid Line (Round Woven Rope) and have never had one come apart. So I figure if it's good enough for that it should hold a fish.

FredA 12-30-2002 12:33 PM

Improve clinch.
Reason:
What Pete (Frenchcreek) said.

Surgoens for tying leader sections together unless I'm home with the "How To" in front of me. Then I'll use the Orvis knot for tapered leaders and Blood knots for the heavy stuff in the butt.

BigDave 12-30-2002 12:39 PM

top three
 
My preferences:

1. Non-slip loop for weighted flies in SW

2. Trilene knot for any tippet finer than 6x in FW

3. Improved clinch for just about anything else

jimS 12-30-2002 02:49 PM

Fly to tippet knots
 
1. Palomar for dead drifting nymphs.
2. Improved turle for dry flies.
3. Non-slip mono for imparting action to a fly.
4. Snelled when using shock tippet to insure the fly tracks correctly.

Simms

SDHflyfisher 01-11-2003 12:11 PM

i voted for improved clinch simply because it is easy and fast and strong. never heard of the orvis knot before.

SDHflyfisher 01-11-2003 12:14 PM

When you guys are talking about the orvis knot do you mean the blood knot? which is what i use for making my leaders.

Speynut 01-11-2003 12:55 PM

It's all for knot
 
It's raining, the rivers are blown out, I'm tired of tying, so here goes...

The 16-20 knot is my current favorite, followed by Kreh's no-slip loop, and then the Trilene knot.

Those unfamiliar with the 16-20 should give it a try. I came across it while checking out an Alantic Salmon website and have been impressed with it's strength, durability, and compact structure. I've yet to have a single 16-20 knot fail.

Here's a link if you care to give it a try:

http://www.gaspelink.com/ron/knots/1620loopknot.htm

John :smokin:


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