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pmflyfisher 06-02-2002 08:30 PM

No Kill - Fly Fishing Only
 
Does your state have fly fishing no kill river or lake sections and what has been impact on the fishery and angler reactions ?

fredaevans 06-02-2002 08:42 PM

All-be-it, I'm sure there are more ..
 
the only one that I'm aware of is the very top end of the Rogue in an area called the Holy Waters ... for very good reason. Water is a 1/2ísh mile stretch below the dam to the top of the hatchery area.

Barbless hooks, fly only (no spinning gear and bubble, etc.), C and R. Some VERY large trout in this area. Hard for me to get results when the water flow is below 1,000 cfs, above this and it's a blast. Average day (below the hatchery with the salmon running you'll see a hundred yo-yo's chasing the salmon), the Holy Water area might have one or two people.

Life is simple and Doggie gets to chase the ducks. Only way I can give/get her to take a bath without saggy eyed recriminations.:hehe: What is it with Dogs and soapie water???
:confused:

Dble Haul 06-03-2002 08:01 AM

There are several Trout Management Areas in CT, but the only FFO no kill section that I'm aware of is on the Housatonic. The Farmington has a no kill section, but the restriction is single barbless hooks, so it's not FFO. The Salmon has a FFO section, but it's not a no kill stretch.

There have been several smaller rivers that have been newly designated as TMAs starting this season, so there may be others that I'm not currently aware of. In fact, I'm pretty sure that the Housatonic has another added to it at Bull's Bridge and Gaylordsville.

What do anglers think? They're glad to have some rivers that are open to year round fishing, although it can be quite crowded at times.

John Desjardins 06-03-2002 08:36 AM

I'll speak up for Massachussetts here. There are several rivers with no kill FFO sections on them. A quick list of those that come to mind is Nissitissit river by the NH border, Deerfield river, Swift river between the dam & rt 9 ( is it open?).

Mark, in CT there is also the Willimantic river in Willington, look down at the river the next time you stop at the rest area on west bound I-84.

This may sound like a whine, but I tend to stay away from such sections. I've noticed more fish with damage from hooks & handling in these areas than in those areas where fish can be kept.

Eric 06-03-2002 10:15 AM

Oregon Again
 
One of the oldest venues for fly-fishing, no-kill is Hosmer Lake on Century Drive outside of Bend. Since the sixties, this has been managed as C&R for transplanted Atlantic salmon. The original stock was from the Gaspe Peninsula in Quebec, but there's another strain in there now, I believe.

Beautiful lake with very interesting fishing.

Cheers,

Eric

pmflyfisher 06-03-2002 02:27 PM

No Kill
 
I live in Illinois but do all of my trout, steelhead, and salmon fishing in Michigan for the last 20 years. Michigan has fly fishing only on several rivers (Big Manistee, Little Manistee, Ausable, Pere Marquette) a no kill section and FF only on the Pere Marquette and also the Ausable system. About a 100 miles of river are designated special regulations such as above legislation is in process to possibly expand it up to 250 miles I think. Has been very successful to date, however it is controversial with the non fly fishing anglers for sure, since prime blue ribbon waters are those which are designated for special regulations.

I was 17 years old when the Beaverkill in NYS had its articial only no kill stretch established in 1966. Fishing remains good 36 years later. All of the michigan rivers which have had this implemented also have resulted in improved fishing.

More is needed IMHO.




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Hauntedbywaters 06-12-2013 04:22 PM

Michigan has all kinds of them. A good 8 mile (I think) on the Manistee and one on each of the 3 branches of the Ausable River. Trout Unlimited was formed on the Ausable, and they call the 9 mile (Fly Only Creel Limit 0) on the main branch of the Ausable the 'Holy Waters.'

Plenty of fish, plenty of stocking fish too. Mostly Brookies and a 12 inch fish is a great fish. There are big Browns as well but they get fished hard believe it or not, they are not fooled easy. Most of the Trophy Waters are open to the hardwear guys. Usually have to go after them at night or during a major hatch. I love this time of year!!!!

As much as I love the fly only waters and all the tourist money it brings to the Grayling area....There is something to be said about a 3 year old that happens to lives on the fly only portion of a river that cant throw a line on a bobber off his dock though.

fredaevans 06-12-2013 05:27 PM

Little more thought (Reg changes too) on this topic.
 
Much of Washington State/BC (fresh and salt) is C & R for unclipped Hatchery fish. All the fins, and back he goes. With little exception the case in Oregon (don't know about California).

Period, no vote. Here on the Rouge it's clipped fish only save for you can keep up to 5 during the 'winter.' Or what we call winter (woozies love it here). Spring run Kings (end of run now) are all Hatchery fish ... enjoy your dinner.

The one odd off river (that I can think of) is the Chetco in SW Oregon. Game department does a regular netting of the winter runs and take the fish up the the Hatchery on the Sixes (or Elk, can't remember) and does the 'egg/sperm' thing. As 90++ percent of the fish came out of the Hatchery (all from Natives) there's really no point in doing a fin clip.

Fred


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