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billl 03-12-2002 04:59 PM

the sixteen-twenty loop
Just bought the march/april issue of american angler, which has an article by E. Richard Nightingale about a knot he developed called the sixteen-twenty. He claims that it is "as strong as or marginally stronger than the Bimini twist" .. "Properly tightened, the sixteen-twenty loop is virtually a 100 percent knot."

Haven't tested it myself yet, but from the diagram it looks like a _very_ simple knot to tie; similar to the duncan loop but actually looks easier.

Speaking of simple & strong, i just talked to a flyshop guy / guide who says he always uses a perfection loop to tie flies to tippet. I recall there was a loop knot thread, now wondering if that was just about duncan loops..


Roop 03-13-2002 07:34 AM

Over the last few seasons I have resorted to using a Palomar 100% of the time with no failures.

Not that I think it really matters with stripers but I think I need to try using loops as well - move out of my comfort zone.

Duncan, perfection, any others? I'll have to pull out my Lefty knot book.

Adrian 03-13-2002 08:45 AM

Jeff, I use Lefty's no-slip loop almost exclusively these days and it hasn't let me down - yet.

Broadbill 03-13-2002 03:16 PM

Billl -

Any link or URL for American Angler? That's a journal I don't subscribe to. It'd be nice to see a schematic or drawing.

I'm big on the Perfection Loop for tippet connections: It creates a strong, straight connection to the standing line; the loop size is easy to adjust--from small to fairly large; it's easy to tie, and it has been utterly reliable.

Dble Haul 03-13-2002 03:56 PM

Broadbill- Try this link:

If you scroll down towards the bottom, there's a diagram of the knot and how to tie it. Unfortunately, it can't be blown up and my eyes aren't what they used to be, but I think that I can get the gist of it. has lots of bonus material like this for American Angler, Fly Tyer, and Saltwater Flyfishing magazines. Hope it helps.

Broadbill 03-13-2002 05:01 PM

Mark -

Much obliged for the fast URL. Sheer laziness on my part; I should have just punched the "I'm feeling lucky" button on a Google search for American Angler .

My eyes aren't young any more, but like you, I think I get the gist. Next trip to Barnes and Noble, I'll have to swing by the magazine rack and either buy a copy or cheat and try to memorize the schematic. Thanks again. I have a bias for simple knots.

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