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Slinger 02-16-2002 10:48 PM

And now for somthing realy new!
At the JFFT thing today I saw some new ties by Capt. Ray, truly innovative stuff. Sorta based on the old style of double salmon flies, these were somthing totaly new to saltwater flies. If we ask real nice maybe he will post instructions. Believe me you`ll like them!

rel1 02-17-2002 01:54 PM

slinger- Ray had these hooks at the SWE fly tying weekend. They look interesting to say the least. Maybe we could get one of the hookcompanies to make some "double salmon hooks" suitable for saltwater use- would save the trouble of making them ourselves. The idea is sound and would definitely reducing the fouling problems. Ron:D

RayStachelek 02-17-2002 03:06 PM

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See if this photo helps. The idea of this hook combination came about for several reason.

Reduce fouling as Ron said without depending on inverting the hook like a clouser style fly.

Adding additional weight to a fly, so as to minimizing casting distance loss.

Change the effective balance point of the fly in the water, causing a fluttering swimming action.

A different cross sectional hook tying area to make tying flatwings easier. This also give the tier more options of creativity with a flat hook profile.

This method of tying makes it adaptable for shrimp, lobster, flatfish, crab, and squid flies.

tomd 02-17-2002 05:20 PM

what kind of hook is that Ray?
Ray, are those just 3407's?

rel1 02-18-2002 04:04 AM

Ray- After posting about the hooks I checked my catalog fro m Terminal Tackle and fond that Mustad has nickel hooks in the double configuration- probably for replacements on some plugs. The larger sizes(2/0-3/0) might be large enough for the job and they have the points down at 45* from the horizontal plane.
I was on Ken Abrames' site and the double hook idea came about to add weight without using weight(lead, wire,etc.) in some of the older rivers across the pond.
Its interesting concept- just need the hook companies to help.

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