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pmflyfisher 12-28-2001 08:50 AM

Atlantic Salmon Fly Swap - Sign Up
In order to keep up with the other fly swaps in process (i.e. steelhead, saltwater, trout) to ensure Salmo Salar is represented an Atlantic Salmon fly swap is proposed.

Each person would tie one pattern of an atlantic salmon fly of their choice. Custom or traditional pattern. Hairwings, speys, tubes, etc. classic ties are optional (for those that can do them)

They would receive a fly back from each of the participating people.

Limit of people participating is ten which should be enough for the number of people which responded to the previous e-mail.

[COLOR=dark-blue]Sign up ends January 15th - Flies would be due to the coordinator by Febuary 1st. [/COLOR]

Respond to this e-mail if you are interested. A list of those participating and instructions will be posted on January 15th.

Thanks and good tying. Nothing like an atlantic salmon pattern to test your skills on.

Hal :chuckle: :chuckle:

Steelheader69 12-28-2001 07:37 PM

Ii'm in
I'll tie up a pattern i tie up similar to a atlantic salmon fly. Basicaly it's my own custom version ofa couuple flies I picked up when I fished on the Niagra a few years ago.

Willie Gunn 12-30-2001 12:50 PM

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I'll give it go. I'll tie a Willie Gunn tube fly as per the little picture.

fredaevans 12-30-2001 04:36 PM

Willie: Re "wadingtons." Try this site.[/url]

juro 12-30-2001 04:58 PM

Sorry Hal -

I am currently in every swap and the deadline is too soon to make them all!

I will participate in the next AS fly swap.

A great source for Waddington's in the US is Waters West in Port Angeles Washington.


pmflyfisher 12-30-2001 08:56 PM


I was thinking of moving it to Mid February or so, does that help ?

Just found out I probably have to deliver a presentation in LA the second week of February which will make things tight for me up to that time.

Actually could do the end of February also, its not like any body except the British Isle members (Malcolm, etc.) will be able to use them before the spring in the US anyway ?


Willie Gunn 12-31-2001 01:23 PM

Do not worry about me, it's so cold here the rivers could be frozen till February anyway.

Happy Hogmanay.


pmflyfisher 01-01-2002 09:40 AM


Since there are already three swaps going on in January (steelhead, saltwater, trout) and it will be to cold to fish in most of our home waters, except those lucky caribbean or South American fly fishers etc..., the due date for the completion of the flies has been moved to Thursday February 28th.

Hopefully there will be other tyers that would like to participate. See the above guidelines for the swap.

Will also give me some more time to figure out how to do single Photo Shots from my Digital Palmcoder and the beginning of February now looks bad for me from a business perspective to coordinate the distributuion of the flys to the participants. Also need to further perfect the AS patterns prototyped over the holiday.

Happy New Year To All,


wrke 01-01-2002 01:22 PM

Count me in.

pmflyfisher 01-05-2002 02:04 PM

AS Fly Swap - Sign UP
As of today here are the people registered for the swap.

Due date for flies is Feb 28th, Any pattern you like just tie all of the same pattern, different hook sizes is OK.

Willie Gunn

FredAevans - ?? Fred are you in this, not sure, Hal

Any one that wants in let us know, plenty of time (and winter)
left to try your skills on atlantic salmon ties. Note many of these can be used for PNW and Great Lakes steelhead so give them a try. If you are a Great Lakes steelheader though I would tie them in size 8 or smaller.

See previous messages on this.

Steelheader69 01-06-2002 11:55 PM

All done
I guess you can say I'm ahead of the gaame, but since you saiid it's only goinng to be limited to 10 tiers I did minne up today and dropped them in the mail. You should have them sometimme this week, early nfollowing week. Figured, if you don't get 10, you can keep the rest. There already is an extra in there for you anyways. Hope you like them. Iit's a hairwing knockoff of a fly I got from a kind gentlemaan when Ii was in NY fishiingA Atlaantics. I couuldn't even comme close to tying it like he did, so switched it to a hairwing and made somme modifiications to it. I call it the Blue Bayou. It worked last time I hit the Niagara andd worked when the net pens broke here in WA with the Atlantics.

pmflyfisher 01-07-2002 06:29 AM

OK, great but I am sure we will find more AS tyers out there some where when they realize they can be applied to iron heads also.

Will be looking for them this week.


pmflyfisher 01-11-2002 09:27 PM

Steelheader 69 - Very Nice
Received Steelheader 69 flies today.

Very cool hair wing tie. I think this color combination will work well for mid west steelhead and king salmon. Have you used it for PNW steelhead with any results ?

Great color combination. I don't see this one in any of AS pattern books. Thats what great about tying your own flies you can be creative and then try and tie

Have lots of room and time for other AS tyers to get in on this fly swap.

Let me know, see previous e-mail for specs.and due dates.


Steelheader69 01-11-2002 11:05 PM

I'm glad you liked them. It's actually based off an AS pattern, but QUITE loosely. I heavily customized it, but I got it from a guy who tied his own flies on the Niagara. His was more of a decorative fly that you'd see in a display (gut loop and all). I cried when I lost that fly.

I was never taught (eventhough I self taught myself to tie flies) to tie up a traditional faancy featherwing flies. So, ince I never got a name and pretty much redesigned the fly I naamed it myself. Called iit the Blue Bayou because of a commnt someone said about the fly after Ii tied the first ones up.

Yes, they do catch stelhead, more late winterruns/early summerruns. I normaly fish these on fair/good visibility. I've cauught somme Atlantics on them, but not "true" Atlantics. Caught the netpen atlantics thtaescaped a few years ago on Puget Sound.

Let me kknow how they work, or if you incorporate it into your flybox. I ways wondered how'd they work on Atlanntics on the east coast. I was a bit uneasy sending in AS flies, since I'm not an AS fisherman, but figured I'd give it a try.

pmflyfisher 01-12-2002 07:41 AM

Your like Me

I am also self taught on fly tying. Started in 1980 when I was transferred to South Bend, Indiana which is right on the Michigan state line. I never had the time before that . Had been east coast (NYS Catskills and Northern NJ) trout fisherman since 1960.

In 1980 is when I started the Michigan steelhead pursuit and learning curve from point zero. Where, when, how, and with what to fish. The transformation from trout to salmon and steelhead started. Michigan has some great rivers and fish runs and remember Trout Unlimited started on the Ausable River in Michigan, and the first Brown trout in America were planted in the Pere Marquette in 1884.

Bought a fly tying kit from Kaufmans and the Trey Combs first Steelhead book. Had lots of time to get into it. We had our first child in 1981, the wife was grounded but she let me go fishing a lot. The rivers were a half hour to 3 hour drive from our home. Have some of my first flies boy were they crude, glad no one was around to see them, all of my fishing friends were back east, and were trout fisherman anyway, not salmon and steelhead.

Its great designing a fly and then going out and proving it will take fish. I have found it does not have to be a beautiful fly to be effective. We use a lot of specialized steelhead nymph patterns here in the Midwest. Will send you some for application and field testing out there on PNW waters.

What size do you fish and weighted or unweighted ?

I did not know that the Niagara had an atlantic run ? Do they still have one there of any significance ? I did not know about the PNW atlantic salmon farms until being on this forumn and their escapement into the rivers.


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