SA Professional Series full sinking line
I needed a heavy full-sinking line to add to my still water gear in 5-wt. I figured it won't get used a whole lot, so I chose one of Scientific Anglers mid-priced "Professional Series" lines (type VI).
I loaded it on a reel spool this evening. I attached the "THIS END TO REEL" end to my backing and started winding. I cranked and cranked (old,made-in-England Orvis Battenkill Mark III reel; not a large arbor), waiting to feel the belly of the line letting me know I was almost finished. I got to the tip end and never felt the belly.
I stripped off about fifteen feet of fly line from the reel and compared it to the tip. It looked the exact same diameter. I checked another ten feet back into the line. No difference. Thinking the little sticker labeling the reel end of the line might have been placed on the wrong end, and that I somehow wound the entire line on without feeling the belly go through my fingers, I emptied the spool. The line looks the same diameter through the whole 100' length.
I know sinking lines are a lot thinner than floaters, but shouldn't the line have a noticeable belly and front and rear tapers? I'll take it out in the snow tomorrow after work and cast it to see how it feels. (I just picked up one of the new TFO BVK Series in 5-wt and I really like it. I did some back-to-back casting comparisons with it and my old Orvis HLS and older Orvis Rocky Mt. five-weights and it was an EASY favorite.)
At the moment, I'm thinking I somehow got a hundred feet of sinking running line....
Take it easy,
The former wet cell Sci Anglers lines in sinking designs cut the wind very nicely. I have also never noticed ANY belly in these. They used to be called "level sink" lines and primarily were designed for lakes/still water. Not sure why you would want to stress a five weight with these, but that is your idea. They cast well, and go down at good rates with mending in moving water a plus, hope that is what you want in performance!
I do a bit of warmater panfishing in a local deep, clear lake. Many times, a sink tip just won't get my fly to where it needs to be. I know the sinking lines are heavy, but why would a 5-wt. line stress a 5-wt. rod; especially a stiff one (practically a 6-wt., really) like the one I have?
Anyway, it's a relief to hear that the line might not have a noticeable belly... I thought I received a manufacturing mistake!
Bob, it appears to be a straight, non-taper sinking line, which is not bad. In fact, I was in Chile, early February, using a 5wt for trout with a level sinking line. It cast fine with a streamer.
As a sidebar, we use a lot of sinking shooting heads on the Cape that are level lines, eg LCD-13, T-14 etc. they work well. See you this Spring.
Nice to hear from you, as always.
What confuses me is that Scientific Anglers lists the taper specs for this particular line:
All-Purpose Sinking Taper
The original full sinking line (formerly Wet Cel™ Series)
More uniform sink rate, tip to belly
Especially effective for fishing streamers
Thin diameter casts well in wind
Superior casting over other sinking lines
Mid-length head for enhanced distance and control
Single-strand monofilament nylon (Type I – multifilament nylon)
PVC integrated with powdered tungsten, glass beads
Front Taper: 5'
Rear Taper: 8'
Running Line: 58'
Head Length: 42'
Total Length: 100'
I sent an e-mail to SA regarding this line last night but didn't hear from them today. I didn't get a chance to try casting it this afternoon. If it casts OK, the whole issue is moot, but I'd still feel a little cheated knowing that they provided all these fancy taper specifications and sold me a level line. ;)
Speaking of feeling cheated... now I find out that while I was chilly in February, you were in Chile in February. :hihi:
See you on the Cape,
PS: I pretty sure I ate chili in February...
I received a reply from Scientific Anglers including this information:
"Please bear in mind that the difference in many tapers is only a few thousandths of an inch, so it can be difficult to discern with the eye."
They also offered to have me return the line so they could check it out if desired. I got a chance to take it outside and cast it, and it casts fine.
I took a look at the only other full-sinking lines I have; a Scientific Anglers "Uniform Sink" WF-6-S, which has very noticeable tapers and belly, and an Orvis 350 gr. "Depth Charge," which, like my new SA 5-wt, has no noticeable tapers or belly (but has a color change).
I guess I learned something about full-sinking lines.
Thanks for the input,
I'm guessing your Uniform sink is Type II. In that case there would be a substantial difference in diameter. They also made that line in a Type IV and Type VI (though I'm not positive they did a Type VI in WF6) and there the difference would be considerably less. My WF9 Type VI has virtually no difference.
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