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Nathan Smith 03-31-2000 12:42 PM

Florida Trip
Just got back from a great florida trip. I was in the Longboat key are 1 1/2 hours south of Tampa bay. Great Mangrove fishing. Fished for two full days and had 16 snook, largest 38", 2 Jacks, largest 7 1/2 lbs, and a sea trout.
I was hoping for some redfish but they had all moved off the flats. I Loved the snook fishing it was awsome. I also spent 1/2 of the second day fishing for Tarpon. There not on the flats yet but we drove up to the De Soto bridge in St. Pete and with sinking lines and big threadfin Herring immitations fished the eddies as the tide was comming it. It was alot like Striper fishing. I was fine with not site fishing because I didn't even expect to have a shot at a tarpon, not to mention that the best part is the fight anyways. I got two to the boat 90lbs, and 120lbs. It was awsome. I had two others on but I lost them really quickly. It was a great time.

Roop 03-31-2000 01:37 PM

RE:Florida Trip
Nice job man!

Your email the other day got me all fired up remembering the 4 tarpon I hooked and never landed in the BVI as well as the trip to the Keys where we got totally skunked!

What flies worked on the snook?

I look forward to hearing more at the Spring Clave.


Lefty 03-31-2000 01:45 PM

RE:Florida Trip
Awesome Nathan! Did you guys use any shrimp or crab patterns? The snook fishing sounds real interesting. How did the Jack fight?? Oh man can't wait!


tomd 04-01-2000 12:07 AM

RE:Florida Trip
we're not too jealous, wish I got to go! : (

Nathan Smith 04-03-2000 10:43 AM

RE:Florida Trip
The Jack fought alot like a Albie, Hard long runs in every direction. We didn't use crab or shrimp patterns snook are really a bait fish predator. We did look for some cobia on the flats (didn't) see any, and we used a merkin for them.

I used several like slim jims and snooks-its, but the best pattern by far and what we used 95% of the time was a sea ducer. It made me think alot about all the effort we put into tying flies, and maybe simpler is better. Also the fact that it is more about imitation of movement rather the appearence.

juro 04-06-2000 07:38 AM

RE:Florida Trip
Nathan - sounds like you really learned a lot down there, and battled some mungus fish too. I think you are 100% correct that motion is key, or maybe more specifically behavior. In the case of sand eels and crabs for stripers, it's the behavior of subtle movement on the sand that counts so much. The marabou abdomen in my juvie pattern is the essential element that adds a tremendous amount of movement both in terms of the material itself and in the foil created behind it and how it moves the hackles. Clousers are so effective because of the added action (ie. jig).

I hooked a gnarly chrome-bright steelhead on the Skagit River the other day on a wild looking fly called the "intruder", an invention of Ed Ward ("steelhead bum") of Washington State's Cascade Mountain river systems. During summer I tend to imitate, but this was an act of "stimulate" due to the action and movement in the fly.

I think in the end it's the concert of imitation, stimulation, an appearance that suggests familiar food, and triggering motion - all rolled up into a single fly. When you figure that one out please let me know


juro 04-08-2000 10:54 PM

RE:Florida Trip
I'd love to see some pictures Nathan! Hope you got plenty.

Also I'd like to know how that rplxi performed for ya!


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