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Nooksack Mac 04-11-2008 02:48 AM

Floss or phlosse?
 
Sorry about that... I tie spey and Dee flies, plus soft hackle trout flies and others that call for floss bodies or tags. I've read that such patterns should be tied with silk floss to be allowed into respectable society. But common rayon floss is what is usually offered to us as fly tying material. Does it really make a difference?

petevicar 04-11-2008 06:10 AM

No apart from the fact that it is cheaper. :)

nmbrowncom 04-11-2008 06:20 AM

it would be outrageous to count fish cought on anything else but silk. and it must be natural grain unprocessed silk from the xises sub species of silk worm found in certain provinces that boarder szichuan china but within a 54.73km radius from the exact center of the intersection of wang and wong in szichuan.

Adrian 04-11-2008 08:52 AM

Yeah, what he just said :chuckle:

flytyer 04-12-2008 01:53 AM

The only advantages silk has over rayon are: 1) it is stonger, so it hold up better when fished; 2) it lays flatter, so it is smoother when tied in; 3) it doesn't fray as easily as rayon; and 4) it can easily be split into a smaller size by poking a bodkin into it, rayon doesn't do to well with this. Rayon is a lot cheaper than good silk and more readily available. Since it works fine as tag material, use it (although I prefer to use high quality and unfortunately expensive Japanese silk).

A few other alternatives to silk that are readily available and in fact work better than silk for some applications are: 1) Uni-Floss, a nylon/rayon combination that I use for some Ally's Shrimp colors because it is single-strand and can be tied with a bobbin; 2) nylon florescent floss; 3) Uni-Stretch, a stretchable nylon that lays nice a flat when stretched, it is my favorite for Glasso Speys (it is easy to split to use in Glasso's split floss dubbing technique) and florescent tags (it is also very good for Ally's Shrimp bodies because it lays flat and is not very bulky.)

Heck, the old masters for the 19th century used substitutes for stuff when they didn't have a particular material, so why can't we?


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