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striblue 10-07-2007 09:12 AM

Rip Trips for 2008
 
I will speak with Keith on the 08 season. I am hopeful to schedule many trips... also discus with him the numbers... for example if birders are going down, how many fisherman can go?.... can we have any numbers with a max of 15?...can, say, two guys go if necessary if the boat is filled with walkers? Can we schedule these trips weekly starting in May..or earlier ? We need to do this because of the weather cancellations... In fact, I am going to schedule one for one at least once...me, and I will pay the $300 since it's still less, or equal money, for a shore guide. I would not need to take a shore guy anyway. The bite , as we have seen, is probably better from the rip than drifting a boat though the area . At some point could I get 2 others for $100 each for the day...Questions like this will be discussed with Keith. How about the situation where Keith can do it with one nights notice. On a regular summer day, midweek or weekend, we have 5 or 6 Forum guys going to NM or SB.... how about a last minute trip to the tip... providing Keith can fit it in to his days schedule...we usually leave before the seal trips and come back after the last seal trip. One way or another, and now with the bigger boat ,we need to schedule more of these inbetween the usual past scheduling; and what about the mid location trip...This will give us four choices instead of the usual two location choices of SB and NM...just my thoughts.

jimS 10-07-2007 11:28 AM

John, excellent points. Unless we get a new cut at S. Beach to refresh the area, I'm afraid it is done except early spring. The exception on S. Beach is the oceanside, which can be awesome during the migration. We also have the option of the north tip of S. Monomoy. Good structure to the west and south near Minimoy. A few of us did the midway on S. Monomoy, and it is definitely worth a trip - good flats and structure north of the drop-off. Plus, it is only a short walk to the oceanside at the dropoff.The rip is still the crown jewel. Trips in May could be epic since it is a great ambush point for the migrants.

Warren 10-07-2007 12:19 PM

John I am certainly game for all of the above. It seems as though when we make long term plans they get torpedoed by the weather.
If we can convince the good captain to take a few of us down on short notice, I am willing to spend what it takes.
Like I said before, For the few times I am able to go, it is cheaper than owning a boat capable of getting out there.
If I am already down there & things do not work out there is always the other locations that can serve as a back up. I plan on buying a SOT Yak this winter for bayside fun next year without having to quit early due to the tide.

Never the less the Rip is truly a shore fisherman's dream come true.

I like the idea of starting earlier too. may give more of us a chance to get down there. If the Plovers don't screw things up......although the first trip the signs were up.

FishHawk 10-07-2007 06:55 PM

A question I have is the Rip Trip exclusive to Forum members only? My vote is that it remains so.
Warren , I too am going to do more yakking in 08. That's the reason I got the yak in the first place but I haven't used it that often because to the fishing was so good without it. Things have changed and will change . Let's see what the Winter brings. FishHawk

striblue 10-07-2007 07:25 PM

Bill, I agree with the FFF use. I also believe that Keith is on board with that. Right now it's Juro or I that can schedule and Jim Sims can as well. But I know Keith will not feel comfortable with opening it up uncontrolled by him.

Warren 10-08-2007 06:01 AM

John,
While I am not one for excessive oversight on most things. There are exceptions. I think these rip trips should be under the control of very few and only forum members be aloud to participate. That way we can police our own as the saying goes

As most of us know, South Monomoy is a National Wildlife Refuge and a real unspoiled gem right in our own over developed back yards. It should remain that way.
We should also not get in the way of Keith and his relationship with the folks at the refuge. Let them call the shots. After all they are the people that allow this to happen in the first place. If people start going down there willy nilly it will be the end of the trips. I am all for letting yourself, Juro Or JimS handle the scheduling. That way there are not to many cooks spoiling the stew

n1gdo 10-08-2007 08:10 AM

Hi..
 
Good morning from Chatham... I wimped out after going down to the refuge with the SW wind honking and the rain coming down.... decided to wait it out at the Stone Horse for a while... heading back to Nahant tomorrow so hopefully will get some in today and tomorrow.

Please keep me in the loop for future Rip Trips...

John thank you for coming down the other day to inform me of the cancellation.

sradin...great fishing with you..

Paxton thanks for trying to contact me last night about this morning cancellation...call me today if you are in the area.

I am beginning to hate the word cancellation... grrrrrrrrrrr

vtloon 10-08-2007 09:31 AM

08 Planning
 
I agree with the cautions, expressed by John & Warren, that a careful, consistent central control is important for the well-being of these trips. I also concur that we can't control the weather, so most of the planning will be fairly short term.

Is there a possibility of an overnight(s) trip to the south lighthouse? If so, that might be an exception to the short term m/o.

Zero-eight is gonna be great!

striblue 10-08-2007 10:34 AM

Todd, I am glad you mentioned that.... Juro, Penguin, Grizz and I went down for a great overnight , and a couple weeks later, Jim Sims spent the night. We went down with a group of Birders, including Doctor Ed who brought his faimily down and spent a lot of time flyfishing as well. The Light house was being worked on this past season and I understand that it will be available next season. My plan, which I have discussed with Keith and Mike( Director of the refuge), is to "plan" several overnights just for Flyfishermen. I think the maximum number is 10 people, and a "guide" or house carekeeper will have to join us. Someone who knows the rules and also prepares meals for us...although Juro did a great breakfast and the Bluefish catch tasted good too. We need to take the wooden window blocks off and do some preparation to get the place ready for the weekend once we get there. But it is a short walk to the Rip and we get to work various tides and other locations. The walk though the interior is interesting...the fresh water pond, old rusted Model T's, and old foundations from the little village that was once there, wandering deer, etc. make this a great take. I hope that this coming season opens more trips to the Tip and "several" overnights at the lighthouse. Sitting on the deck at sunset was a treat (including Grizz's collection of High end scotch , $300 bottles! ) at that location and early morning was a sight. We all had to pity and joke about the guests at the Chatham bars Inn that weekend .Check and search back on this Forum for the pictures we took from the last overnight. It's usually a 7am departure time on a Saturday morning with a 4pm pickup on Sunday.

striblue 10-08-2007 10:57 AM

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Penguin 10-08-2007 11:08 AM

WORLD'z away...
 
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SIGNMEUP Scotty!

mikez 10-08-2007 12:15 PM

That overnight trip looks very interesting!
What is the cost?

Adrian 10-08-2007 01:48 PM

Must do this next season :smokin:

Sean Juan 10-08-2007 02:21 PM

I'd totally be up for that, fishing the rip at full dark must be awesome.

striblue 10-08-2007 02:54 PM

Mike, I don't remember exactly...but for some reason I remember a $100 figure...$100 exactly each...at that time. Sean- yes... at Dusk also...I don't know at Dawn, since That stuff grizz brought forced me to sleep in at dawn.:lildevl: I do remember watching grizz and juro make there way across the moors with headlamps...bumping into each other along a narrow path in the distance.


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