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Sean Juan 07-07-2007 09:11 AM

Two-hand small fly problems
I just figured I'd post a problem I've been having with my two-handed rod.

I have the LL Bean 10/11 11'6" Orion rod and am using it with the Airflo two-hand beach line sinking version.

The problem is that I have trouble casting small - say under 3/0 - flies. Heavily weighted flies no sweat, big air-resistant ones I can chuck a good distance fairly consistently.

A small fly however creates something of an enormous tailing loop after a backcast. The casting loop itself is okay but the fly stays very low. At first I thought I was over-powering the cast which I have a tendency to do, but even deliberately weak casts have the same flaw.

Before the two hand the biggest rod I ever cast was my glx 10wt (I can still cast that further than the two-hander.) I only experienced a problem like this when I tried over-lining the rod via a shooting head.

Any thoughts?

juro 07-07-2007 07:21 PM

You need to change the leader for small flies.

The longer and more gradual the taper, the more "air brake" you get. I think you will be surprised

Make a few up for sacrifice to the concrete or football field gods. Use no fly, just use a longer more gradual leader. If it casts well without any fly, it will solve the whiplash problem.

Sean Juan 07-08-2007 03:11 PM


That was the fix...I was using my typical leader for the sinking line which is a very short (3') section of 30# fluro.

I tied a tapered leader of 30 - 20 - 15 and didn't have the problem again.

Thanks for the help - I'm not only impressed that you ok ID and fix the problem, but that you could do so from my poorly written post.

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