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Grn Highlander 08-13-2006 10:19 AM

Line Help / Suggestions
 
Hi,

I need help on the selection of a new (floating) fly line. I live in Nova Scotia in a rural area, and it is difficult to try multiple lines. I really don't want to get into purchasing multiple lines as a trial an error - any input would be appreciated.

This is for a fast action 6 weight, used for freshwater applications, some bass and trout. Most of the stuff I use is Size 8 - 14, sometimes a dropper, and foam flies (ants and such). On deadwaters / lakes, I cast moderate to long distance.

I have been looking at the Sci. Ang, they have a lot of lines :bass, expert distance, xps.

I don't do a lot of fine dry fly work, so am not really looking at the trout. The bass seems more like a shooting head, and if I do go for trout, it seems like it would have a splashdown that would be quite severe.

Anyone familiar with the Expert Distance ? They say it's good for longer ranges and larger flies, but no one really defines the terms.

Thanks.

wadecalvin 08-24-2006 01:25 AM

probobly you could go with a sa mastery series weight forward - or cortland 444 weight forward - or rio grand - sounds like the xxd is for stuff like distance competinions and you might give up some quality in another area of unintended concequences. or Hook and Hackle high floater- I've heard good things about all of these and as one guy said - weight forward is wieght forward.

teflon_jones 08-24-2006 08:48 PM

I'm a very big fan of the S.A. mastery series lines. I have 3 or 4 of them for freshwater fishing. A WF line is your best bet. Don't get one of those specialty lines like the expert distance or the bass taper because you need an all around line.

I would not get a double taper for a few reasons:
1. You don't fish dry flies much,
2. You list distance as something that's relatively important to you, and
3. You have a fast action rod which will harder to load with the DT line at short distances.

Zo2 08-25-2006 02:25 PM

depends
 
Depends what you mean by "I cast moderate to long distance.".....

Almost any wf or dt line will work. I would not get a bass line.

What's wrong with the line you have now?

Zo2

pescaphile 08-25-2006 03:13 PM

I'd agree that most any DT or WF line will work. I'd go with the WF if distance is more important to you and with the DT if roll casting and line control are more important.

Teflon Jones: I agree about WF lines being a bit better for distance, but why say double-taper lines are primarily a dry-fly line? That's pure unadulterated balderdash. And so is that fast-action rod comment.

teflon_jones 08-25-2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pescaphile
Teflon Jones: I agree about WF lines being a bit better for distance, but why say double-taper lines are primarily a dry-fly line? That's pure unadulterated balderdash. And so is that fast-action rod comment.

I didn't say they're primarily a dry fly line. I would just be much more likely to recommend one if the original poster fished dry flies much because a DT line is a much better dry fly line than a WF line is. Much better presentation IMHO.

And the fast action rod comment was definitely balderdash because I put the wrong type of line in it. :) It's corrected now.

Zo2 08-25-2006 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teflon_jones
I didn't say they're primarily a dry fly line. I would just be much more likely to recommend one if the original poster fished dry flies much because a DT line is a much better dry fly line than a WF line is. Much better presentation IMHO.

And the fast action rod comment was definitely balderdash because I put the wrong type of line in it. :) It's corrected now.

Might want to have a look at the specs on the SA site. Of the the three Mastery lines that may apply here, the GPX, Trout and XPS, only the XPS has any difference in front taper between dt and wf. Even in the less expensive Air Cel range there is not enough difference in taper to substantially change anything at short range.

These lines are AFTMA (or whatever it's called now) and should weigh the same in dt or wf at 30', so, as far as the fast action rod comment goes, there should be no actual (note that I said "actual", not "perceived") difference in loading between the wf and dt until you get near the end of the wf's rear taper, which is generally in the neighborhood of 35-40'. After that point, the dt's extra mass will load the rod much deeper.

Re fast rods and close in loading: even the tip on a so called fast stiff rod such as the 590 or 690 TCR is soft enough that it will cast, as Harry Wilson of Scott used to say, "zero line"--- nothing but leader if need be.

DTs these days are so good and shoot so well that there is no reason they cannot be used in salt water.

Zo2

pescaphile 08-26-2006 02:46 PM

TeflonJones:
You may want to check your post again re: fast-action rods and presentation. It's still nonsense.


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