Gearing up for small streams/ creeks
I will be mostly fishing the local small streams this fall and spring - the Weir and Plymouth rivers in Hingham, and maybe the Jones and Eel rivers down in Kingston, and i was looking for kit recommendations.
i figure that these waters are from 15 to 30ft accross, and research on the net suggests that a 8.5/9 foot 4/5# rod with a medium action will do the job . for line i was intending to use a DT if i can get one here
- any thoughts or advice much appreciated. same for likely hatches and flies to use.
also would the same rod suffice for occasional trips to the Deerfield or Swift ? ( or is that another shopping trip ?)
How much fly fishing experience do you have? How much freshwater river/stream experience?
For streams that small, an 9 foot rod is really too long. I'd go for an 8 or 8.5 at the longest. As for a the rod weight, I'd stick to a 4 rather than a 5. You'll get better feel for the small fish you'll get out of waters that small. What fish species are you going to be targeting in those streams? Are you planning on doing pond/lake fishing with the same outfit?
I've settled on an 8.5ft RPL 5wt for all-around duty. Not too long, not too short. The 5wt is nice for our trout although keep a sharp eye out on those rivers for searun trout, I've seen them with me own eyes and have friends from the area who've done well although inconsistently over the years. I used to fish those areas in the early 80's due to the experimental coho salmon years.
Also include the Indian Head River in Pembroke and Hanover, a tributary of the North River, which is a nice venue in cool months.
I don't feel it's a hindrance on ponds once lined with a proper line. A DT would not be the first choice on ponds as you know, something you can shoot would be much better for the task and the trout ponds from Plymouth south onto the cape are spectacular.
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thanks for the advice guys,
Scott - most of my FF has been salmon saltwater or ponds, i have only fished salmon rivers for Trout when the leaper has not been about using a 7/8 wt , hence the questions.
i think i will go for a 8.5ft 4/5 as the best compromise. I don't know what species they have in each one - rainbows & browns ?
Juro - i hear good things about that river, when there is water. I wasn't intending to fish the ponds. if so i will pick up another spool and WF5. i am more keen to learn something new.
your 'go to' flies would be interesting - i have klinks, hares ears, PTN's, Diawl bachs, caddis, hoppers and various small mayflies - dries and nypmhs, that i brought from Ireland.
prince nymphs and copper johns seem popular in Thomas Ames book.
i fish the weir and plymouth regularly and have for years. anything more than a 3 wt is over kill. i use a 7' 9" 0 wt. i also hve a 5' 3wt which i sometimes use. keep in mind these styreams are small and choaked with all kinds of branches and barbs which you must negotiate no matter whether you're in the river or on the bank. the plymouth river is stocked with small (6"-8") brookies and the occaisional larger ones up to 14". the weir also has small rainbows...
i fish the weir and plymouth regularly and have for years. anything more than a 3 wt is over kill. i use a 7' 9" 0 wt. i also have a 5' 3wt which i sometimes use. keep in mind these streams are small and choaked with all kinds of branches and barbs which you must negotiate no matter whether you're in the river or on the bank. access is very limited and difficult. the plymouth river is stocked with small (6"-8") brookies and the occaisional larger ones up to 14". the weir also has small rainbows...the weir dumps into the hingham bay which is salt water. there are stripers to be had up to 1/2 mile from the mouth of the river. however you'll need a 9 wt rod for that and nothing less than a 7. the jones and eel are a better bet. a 3 wt 7'-9''is all you'll need and a dt woud be fine. there's fallen trees and other stuff so the fishing can be a bit tricky but far better than the weir or plymouth rivers. juro's suggestion of the indian head of north river is the best bet. it is heavily stocked and has an abundance of smallmouth bass a little down river from where you'll find the trout. again an 8' 3 wt is all you need for the trout, but a 5 wt is needed for the smallies. a little further down river and you'll find striped bass if the tides are right. if you like stillwater fishing there is an abundance of really fine ponds in the plymouth area which are heavily stocked and well maintained. email me and i'll be glad to pass on whatever i can.
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