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Blues Brother 09-13-2005 07:55 PM

Quick Question
 
When you fasten your fly to the leader, do you fasten it with a knot or with a swivel? Thanks.





~Bryce

pescaphile 09-13-2005 09:05 PM

Use a knot. You probably know the clinch knot. It works well for many applications. I like it for most trout fishing. I also use the turle and palomar knot also.

There's no need for swivels in flyfishing.

teflon_jones 09-14-2005 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pescaphile
Use a knot. You probably know the clinch knot. It works well for many applications. I like it for most trout fishing. I also use the turle and palomar knot also.

There's no need for swivels in flyfishing.

The Improved Clinch is the way to go, especially with fine tippet. The extra little turn back through your loop makes a BIG difference in holding the knot.

There's actually one use for swivels in flyfishing that I know of. ;) I have these little tiny spinner flies that you use tiny little swivels with so your line doesn't twist. It becomes an unholy mess if you don't.

EddieF 09-14-2005 09:50 AM

The Orvis site has cool animated lessons in knot tying. I've been using this Orvis knot to attach a fly because it came on a card in the packet of leaders I first bought and I've been using it ever since.

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/files/index.html

Dble Haul 09-14-2005 10:41 AM

The only time I would stay away from the clinch knot with finer tippets is when fishing tiny flies for fussy and educated trout. In such cases, the knot's bulk can be up to half the size of the fly and make the whole presentation appear unnatural. The turtle knot is the way to go in that scenario.

Eric 09-14-2005 12:08 PM

Depends also on the size, desired presentation and type of fly, too. For steelhead and salmon wet flies tied on TULE (turned-up-loop-eye) hooks, the double Turle knot seems to work best (for me, anyway) Using a clinch knot will cause flies tied on these hooks to swim off kilter. Also, when using ring eye hooks, a loop knot may give the best results (for lots of salt water flies). Then, there's the good ol' Uni-Knot, which lots of my friends use, but I've never learned to tie. As pointed out above, probably the improved clinch knot will meet most trout fishing needs.

Cheers,

Eric

juro 09-14-2005 12:16 PM

Another good terminal knot for light tippets is the palomar, which eats up a little tippet to tie but provides exceptional strength which comes in handy for light tippets when you are fortunate enough to hook a good fish.

I second the double turle knot for steelhead / salmon fishing with a loop eye.

Blues Brother 09-14-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by juro
Another good terminal knot for light tippets is the palomar, which eats up a little tippet to tie but provides exceptional strength which comes in handy for light tippets when you are fortunate enough to hook a good fish.

I second the double turle knot for steelhead / salmon fishing with a loop eye.

The palomar is one that I use for darn near everything. I just wasn't sure if it would work on flies. so clinch and turle are also a must to learn?


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