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daddy long legs 09-06-2005 03:00 PM

2 questions
Hi everyone. I'm brand new here and brand new to fly fishing. I come from yorkshire UK and can't wait to get started. I've bought all the gear and I'm just making sure I get a few points cleared up before I go for my first time!

My first question is:

What is the best knot for attatching fly line to a mono leader?

And second:

Should the leader taper rapidly from i.e. 12lb, 8lb, 6lb, 4lb or more gradually i.e. 6lb 5lb 4lb?



p.s. I have been a coarse fisherman for years so I should have a little water craft about me!!!

Dble Haul 09-06-2005 03:12 PM


For your first question, most people use a nail knot to attach the leader to the flyline. I use and albright knot for clear intermediate lines because they tend to hold better in that situation, but the nail knot is the real workhorse.

For your second question, the progression of the leader components needn't be in one pound test increments. Your first scenario is best and will generally transfer plenty of energy from the cast forward to the fly and turn it over.

daddy long legs 09-06-2005 03:26 PM

Thanks for that, exactly what I needed. So the nail knot is fine for all situations including fly line and mono?

Would a leader of 15lb-10lb-6lb-4 or 4.5lb be ok as that's all I've got for the time being or would the first scenario be noticebly better than that?


Dble Haul 09-06-2005 03:30 PM

The nail knot is good for mono to flyline, and some people even use it for the backing to flyline connection (although most use an Albright for that).

Depending on what type of fish you'll be targeting, the leader materials that you have sound fine. They are too light for any saltwater fishing, but ou should be perfectly okay with what you have for light freshwater fishing.

Have fun, and let us know how you do.

daddy long legs 09-06-2005 03:36 PM

Thanks mate! :biggrin:

teflon_jones 09-07-2005 10:24 AM

First of all, welcome to the forum! :)

I tie my fly line to the leader with a very simple knot that very few people use, but it's very effective. You can find tying instructions here:

As for the taper, how long a leader are you planning on using? For shorter leaders, 4 different line sizes may not be necessary.

daddy long legs 09-08-2005 10:30 AM

The leader will be around 10 foot.

I cannot tie a nail knot!!! I have no idea why though! The coils just aren't coming together nicely. I think I did one ok but the end of my flyline was bent. IS this normal (the fly line AFTER the knot I'm talking about). I am also scared that the fly line is being cut in to. Is this normal???

Any more knots anyone???

Also is the albright knot suitable for light fly fishing?


teflon_jones 09-08-2005 12:35 PM

I wish I could help you out, but I hate tying knots! I use tapered leaders since I'd rather spend my time fishing than tying knots!

Dble Haul 09-08-2005 12:37 PM

The Albright knot is suitable for all types of fishing.

If you're having trouble with the nail knot, try using a tool that's specially made for it (or even a common object such as a straw). It's a knot that gets much easier with practice. Some bite of the leader material into the line is normal (in fact it's what holds the knot), but there shouldn't be any tearing.

Keep at it, and it will get easier.

daddy long legs 09-08-2005 12:53 PM

It isn't tearing the line but it is biting in. I think I'll try it with another material instead of fly line to get used to it because every time it goes wrong I have to cut a little line off! :mad:

Thanks for the replys!

daddy long legs 09-09-2005 01:48 AM


I finally managed to tie the nail lot last night after a lot of persistance!

I didn't actually realise that inside the fly line there is braid so when the mono bites into the fly line it's ok!

Now I just need to get down to the lake!


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