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ruisvoorn 11-30-2004 04:57 PM

2 handed rod


Januari 2005 I'll make my second Bonefish trip.
The first trip I used a #5 rod (small barracuda's, snappers etc.) and #7/8 for Bonefish.
I'm wondering if it's useful to fish with a 2 handed rod on the flats, specially for the deeper places and of course to tackle the wind.

Does anyone have experience with this kind of fishing ?

Best regards,


juro 11-30-2004 05:19 PM

I fished my last trip to the Bahamas entirely with a two-hander, the Atlantis All-arounder which is an 11ft 9/10 IM8 graphite rod. For most bones it was a little too much rod, but for the one shown below and others like it a fair match, and another that broke my leader estimated at 12#, it was not enough.

Compared to ocean surf (beach fishing) I found it to be less of a hands-down advantage no pun intended. It certainly has advantages and disadvantages, but as a two-handed afficionado whether on a steelhead river or cape cod surf I would like to explore it further with something a little lighter than the current Atlantis series for bonefishing... or else I would like to cast to nothing but 7# plus bones :lildevl:

Certainly in a cross-wind a practiced two-handed caster can have an easy day where someone else might have to struggle or cast backwards. By switching to a shooting head large poppers can be thrown over the breakers to entice jacks and other predators. It seemed easier to lift the line over coral as well when a fish is running, a nemesis of mine in years past with a single hander.

I wouldn't say it's for everyone but if you like two-handed casting and fishing, it's fun and makes things very interesting. For stripers, jacks, trevally and soon roosterfish I think it's a no-brainer.

Caveat - two-handed casting takes a little practice. The lack of a double haul requires a change in the power application to get maximum returns. Once the stroke is learned, it's possible to throw much more grains and much greater distances with much less effort for longer periods of time. For me it's been as much a pleasure to learn as single handed flycasting was, and not nearly as hard to learn second. :)

(some pictures attached in the ridiculous clave thread)

gammarus 11-30-2004 10:34 PM

One handers are for suckers!! :biggrin: I'm using 10'6" rods from Bob Meiser.They're as light as one handers, not much longer, and are easy on the arms (I have bad wrists from work). With a rio windcutter you can punch out a 60+ foot roll (single spey) cast while crouching on one knee. Peeeeeeerfect! I haven't tried the atlantis but I'm sure it's just as good.

ruisvoorn 12-01-2004 04:14 PM


Thank you both for the response.



ruisvoorn 12-06-2004 04:02 PM

Loop LBL811.6FT


A few days ago I bought a new 2 handed rod for my 2e Carribean trip in January.
The idea is to use it for e.g bonefish, on places where its difficult to spot (deeper/rough water), so I let drift my shrimps over the seagrass.

I expect a lot of wind (just like last year) and a depht of approx 1 meter water, so what kind of line and leader would you recommend for this Loop #8 11.6ft ?

thanks for reading,


gammarus 12-06-2004 09:47 PM

I would recommend any short belly spey line in an 8/9 weight as your LOOP is an 8/9. I use a rio windcutter for my 10'6 8/9. Just use the running line and the tip (don't use the mid belly section). In fact, for maximum distance casting, replace the running line with Rio Slickshooter. It is great for long and short casting. Get a multip version so you are versatile. Experiment with how much line to have out of the tip for your initial forward roll cast. Once you figure it out mark the spot on the running line with a waterproof marker. You can easily roll cast 50 feet (shooting some line in the process) and go directly into your back cast and then launch the line out with either a two handed cast or a single handed cast with a haul. The trick is aiming your roll cast above the water when bonefishing. When casting to fish that aren't easily spooked I let the fly touch the surface so I can water haul into my back cast. It will take a few tries to get the hang of it.

Bee 12-07-2004 11:31 AM

wish I could be more encouraging on the two hander
From your inofrmation you appear to a "small stream " trout fisherman. Use the same rod and same equipmentyou would use on the small stream for spooky trout and apply them to the bonefish. Distance casting is a myth in will catch a lot more fish within thirty feet than you will outside 50. Yes, I can cast 100 feet anytime I want to ,so this is nto a response from someonewho cannot cast. Stealth, quiet apporaches in wading, minimum false casting, keeping shadows off fish, placing the sun behind you when approaching, maximum leader length (16-18 ft)you can cast with no tippet smaller than 10 pounds. Flies designed to landly softly but sink quickly. Maker your fisrt cast the best cast....leave the spey rod at home...i have fished two handed rods all over, and have fished the bahammas for bonefish for many many years. You can possibly use the two handers in "mudding fish" in five feet or more of water with a heavier sink tip and if you overhead cast and keep the tip from anchoring as you would in conventional casting...any bonefish that is slightly wise is going to spook immediately upon any repeated anchoring of a spey cast anywhere within his domain. Been there ,tried it...stick with 9 foot 6 weights and apply the rules above and you will catch more fish...2 cents.

Capt. Mel Simpson 12-07-2004 12:33 PM

I 2nd B's $.02 on a 2 hander.

I would also add that it is not fun to pole a two-hander. :whoa:

As a sightfishing guide I think I need to be focusing on finding fish not where the caster's line is coming from. So if you plan on fishing from a boat with one, don't.


gammarus 12-07-2004 11:42 PM

I wouldn't say it's for everyone but if you like two-handed casting and fishing, it's fun and makes things very interesting. For stripers, jacks, trevally and soon roosterfish I think it's a no-brainer.

You will have fun with your two hander on your trip. The 8116 is a true overheader, not a spey rod, and is very versatile at short and long range. My description of the lines and casting techniques was obviously meant to let you know more about the wide range of applications. I assumed that you were aware that Bonefishing is a stealth sport and that you would practice likewise presentations with your rod. A nine wieght single hand line will work on your rod as well.

ruisvoorn 12-08-2004 12:57 PM

I'll give it a try

Thanks to you all for the response;
  • For sightfishing I take my #7 8.8ft, and the 2handed for the purpose I posted before. This trip is al done by feet/wading :cool: (capt. Mel Simpson)
  • Guess what kind of rod I normaly use at home.....#1 5.6ft... :hihi: (Bee)
  • I will have fun with my 2handed and I think it will be the Rio Wincutter :chuckle: (Gammarus)

Best regards,


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