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Jimmy 04-13-2001 01:35 PM

Kayaks
 
I told you guys when I first joined the board, I had a lot of questions. I'm just making good on my promise. Several people have mentioned using a kayak when fishing for stripers. I believe I have good kayak waters on Long Island Sound. Where do I start? I'm a true beginner. I need advise on length, width, type, construction....everything! By the way. I did great with the sun glasses. Action Optics at 50% off.

Jimmy

striblue 04-13-2001 02:28 PM

Jimmy ,all I can tell you is that I have a tri-balance and I will give you more details on it but there is a web site on that kind of kayak which has pontoons for stability. I think there are others on this site which use Kayaks as well. I know Marvin and Doogue have them as well as others who's names escape me for the moment. Did you also do a search of this board because I think there may be a long thread on this in the archives.

juro 04-13-2001 02:36 PM

Hi Jimmy -

Did a search on the word kayak in Stripers and on Flyfishing Gear (hold the Ctrl key to do multiple selection) and it came up with lots of reading...

(link removed - temp results only work on the computer where the search was first done)

jared 04-13-2001 04:15 PM

Jimmy --

Pungo! Wilderness Systems.

--Jared

artb 04-13-2001 09:58 PM

Jimmy, This is something else to think about. I am not knocking a kayak, but, I bought one 3 years ago, aftre looking at many. I bought a Necky Ganett. It was OK in the salt ponds like Quonny, and Charlestown, also running in and out of the breachways, but landing in the surf I rolled it over everytime as being old I couldn't get out of a tight cockpit without rolling. I think kayaks are very tightand after a couple of hours is uncomfortable. Here is my alternate. Get a small inflatable, carries 650lbs, 3 persons, weighs 25 lbs, and with a wooden floor you can stand to cast. Mine is brand new, which I bought after watching 2 guys several times fish outside the surf line at Quonochotaug, and kill the False Albacore. Just had to throw in another alternative. The only thing I am wondering about is how it will hold up landing on the beach in the surf amoung clam shells, stay tuned.

SOLO 04-13-2001 10:12 PM

Jimmie...I've got a Pungo...big enough cockpit to ease entry/exit, room for gear, tupperware material that's durable, not big buck$, and I could go on...Where abouts do you live? The North Cove Outfitters have a great selection and it sounds as if you need to do some tire-kicking. I use the kayak to get me to where I can get out to wade the flats/shallows...last year I got an early keeper from under the bridge below the Holyoke dam on the Connecticut River...she dragged me around for 10 minutes while WE decided how best to catch 'n release...It gets me away from the clowds and into some interesting spots...You are alot closer to the fish and better tuned in to what's going on...It's a nice tactic but treat it with respect!
Safe paddling!

Adrian 04-13-2001 10:32 PM

Hi Jimmy

I've thought about Kayaks on and off for some time.

Wilderness Systems (of Pungo fame) has a nice site....
wilderness

They've got some real nice looking sit-on-tops .....

tomd 04-14-2001 08:17 AM

Jimmy, I thoroughly researched this same subject last year. spend acouple months checking online, then tried about a dozen in the water. my advice... PUNGO!!! bulletproof plastic, tracks as if it has a keel, is fast, and when you drag it onto the rocks to land it won't bring tears to your eyes. one of the guys around here had on on his car(wasn't tied down) that fell off at 35mph... no damage... if it was fiberglass, trashed. I myself screwed up last year and tied mine on my rack, but before I tied the front rope moved my explorer to make way for a boat to launch. the rope got caught in the front tire tread and literally folded the pungo in half!!! :( man, I freaked out) there I am with my new yak on the roof rack and folded so it went over the drivers side window. I jumped out, cut the rope and threw the pungo on the ground(still freaking out). everyone at the ramp is looking at me sadly. I jump up and into the cockpit and pop!!! back in shape, A OK!!! whew! so if you're a space cadet like me or just want a great,fast,good tracking,fun,stable,durable, kayak to fish from ... Pungo!
but try a few out though, personal taste in yaks is like personal taste in women, some like lean and mean, some like big and comfy.
Tom D

tomd 04-14-2001 08:20 AM

oh yeah, forgot to mention I tested the yaks on windy days. do the same or you won't know how well they track in the wind, and this is very important! Tom D

SOLO 04-14-2001 09:31 AM

Jimmie...There's something to be said about being towed around by a Big Blue...the challenge arrives at the side of the craft with sharp teeth and an attitude. A lipping device helps turn the tide in you favour. Everything not secured by a teather is in peril (sooerorlater).
I don't take the YAK out in terribly open water since I prefer the estuaries, coves, flats, and more user/YAK friendly waters. A long bungee allows me to get out and wade fish while always being "attached". There is a comfortable learning curve and after a short time you'll feel secure (don't forget your float-coat!). The YAK opens up interesting horizons while you get a workout!
Cheers...

Hawkeye 04-14-2001 11:26 AM

Tom,

You should send that story to the manufacturer. Or better yet have them read it hear. That is a great testimonial!

PS I did the same thing with my colman ramx 17. I only bent it a little but it did not bend back. So you are not the only one to have done that and I feel better knowing I am not the only one. :)

juro 04-14-2001 05:04 PM

You should also talk to Don Baker of Sesuit Creek Outfitters in East Dennis (mid-cape). He is very knowledgable on the topic of kayaks and carries a large variety in the shop. I have been interested in the Ocean Kayak sit-on-tops, they are really stable and although they aren't made for speed like the eddylines they are so easy to get on and off. They self-bail, have watertight storage, and come in a tandem model too for those who are lucky enough to have significant others who fish.

Inflatables have piqued my interest too.

He also offers rentals and has a yak guide working out of the shop. His location is right next to the Brewster Flats, making a rental more than just a paddle session.

Nick 04-15-2001 01:34 PM

I own a Ocean Kayak sit on top and I love it. I have the Frenzy which is their smallest (and cheapest :-) )yak. I love it for fishing out of and it is great in the surf as well. I even take it surfing in the waves when the dog days get around in August. It is light and easily carried on the top of my car. It is self bailing as Juro said, which can be good or bad depending on the situation. I really enjoy it.
Nick

juro 04-15-2001 05:46 PM

Nick - good feedback, thanks. Does water seep in thru the bailing holes? I know that the skirted cockpit models force one to either mess with the skirt -or- take water inside, which does not bail. Do you have any opinions on the inside cockpit verses the top rider w/ bail? Thanks in advance.

Juro

Nick 04-15-2001 06:32 PM

Juro,
I am a rather big person and water does come in through the holes into the cockpit. It doesn't make for much problems in the summer when its warm, but in the fall it was kinda annoying. I purchased some scupper plugs to fill the holes over the winter, but have not had a chance to try them out. You don't really need to have the self bail if you are not in any surf, as the water buildup from fishing and paddling is minimal. I don't have much experience with a real skirted kayak. The main reason I bought this one was that it was a great combination between fishing, pleasure paddling, and surfing in it (which is a real blast;-)). It is also made out of rigid plastic that can be "welded" with a torch and plastic rods if the need arises. If you want to try it out sometime, let me know. I am going to start bringing whenever I fish, just in case!
nick


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