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steelmaniac 11-24-2004 05:33 AM

sculpin patterns
 
Hey I was wondering if anybody here has any good sculpin patterns. Something easy to tie, yet still big and fish fooling. I would like em from #2 to #10 those are mainly what I 'd be tying. Right now I make mine like this.

Tail & back rabbit strip; Grey Olive brown

Body is two pieces of lead wire .035 on top and bottom of hook shank, then covered with gold metal tinsel

Fins behind the head they are hen pheasant neck feathers( but they don't seem to be stiff enough)

Head Brown Sculpin wool Wrapped in a dubbing loop. Now if you guys have a better way than that please tell me :Eyecrazy:

And all other suggestions and photos would be awesome.

Thanks

Scott A. Burgin USAF in Germany

Shaq 11-24-2004 08:58 AM

I tie mine simaliar
 
I tie mine with the rabbit tail, and then a body of light flashy dubbibng, olive or cream, 2 olive saddles on the back, then a dahlberg diver style deer hair head. The collar of deer hair creates the side fins and they don't flair back, and the saddle hackles, tied tent style on the back create the slimmer profile. It probably takes a few extra moments to tie, but I've caught 3 species of trout, steelhead, smallmouth, largemouth, pike pickeral and a walleye on it. I tie it in a #2 for steelhead and as small as an 8 for trout. I also make the "olive's", brown and do well.

Hope this helps,

removed_by_request 11-24-2004 09:05 AM

Grab a copy of Spring 2004 Fish and Fly, one of the Muskegon river guides has an article in there with some of his patterns.

Trust me he nails a ton of fish on them.

Gillie 11-24-2004 10:39 AM

That issue of Fish and Fly is written by Kevin Feenstra. He also did an article back in 2002 where he profiled his Emulator (a sculpin pattern). I have fished this pattern, and modified versions of it, with a lot of success. Another great pattern that came out of Michigan is the Zoo Cougar. This is a very good streamer / sculpin pattern for the great lakes. Schmidts rabbit muddler and Maddonna are also very effective.

Although I love wets and speys, streamers and sculpind swung on a sink tip is a great way to more traditionally fish the great lakes with a higher rate of success.

Gillie

peter-s-c 11-24-2004 10:49 AM

Good thread . . .

Don't use many sculpin patterns as I've been looking for a good clouser style sculpin that can really get down among the rocks. Tried inventing a couple but didn't like the looks. I've been thinking of a popscile style clouser in sculpin colours.

removed_by_request 11-24-2004 11:39 AM

They call them big uglies on the Mo', trust me that is no exaggeration.

Rambo 11-24-2004 11:44 AM

Sculpins
 
I have been using the feenstra Sklupin Emulators for a few years now and have done well with them. here is the recipe I am using and a pict.

http://www.theclikgroup.com/emulator.jpg


Hook CS15 Carrie Stevens 10x Long Streamer Hook. size 2
Thread 3/0 brown
Head Opposim
Collar natural wood duck flank feather
hackle Olive Schlapen
body Golden emu
Tail Olive barred marrabou

1 Start with a very secure thread base.

2 Wrap threadbase back to the hook bend. Tie in the marabou feather so it is about the length of the hook shank.

3 Tie in the hackle feather by the tip here, followed by the 2pieces of emu.

4 Wrap the emu forward and tie off. Then palmer the hackle forward and tie off and trim.

5 Cut a clump of opposim or rams wool and tie it in so that the tips sweep back over the body a bit. Take a couple of wraps through the flared butts to lock the hair in place.

6 Complete the fly by trimming to shape with a razor blade or sharp scissors.

Original Pattern by keven Feenstra

steelmaniac 11-24-2004 12:04 PM

I have that issue of fish and fly and was just looking at it. Some of those seem really good. But i don't have all the materials, that will happen soon though. Thanks for your help guys. Also doesent that emulator seem to be almost too long, I would think an 8 or 6 xl hook would be better, especially to hold onto the fish.

steelmaniac 11-24-2004 12:05 PM

that article that I have is actually the sprind 2004 isuue

removed_by_request 11-24-2004 12:21 PM

That's the whole idea, big and ugly.

Steelies rock em jard, they will rip the rod out of your hand. Think about how big sculpins are. Fish expend the same amount of energy no matter the size of the meal. Eating a bigger meal means you have more in your belly, more energy in return for your effort.

Rambo 11-24-2004 04:34 PM

all of the steel head I have spoke too this fall have not had a issues with the proportions... just the sharp in the tail :D
Yeah they really hit em hard.

steelmaniac 11-24-2004 04:43 PM

awesome guys I'll see if I can get some pics going here soon. My scanner says .tif files are not compatible. I'll fix it non the less. See ya soon

JDJones 11-25-2004 12:14 PM

Sculpin heads
 
Rarther than tying the head in a dubbing loop, Spin the material as if it were deer hair and then trim to shape with a razor blade. You need to use material that will absorb water to aid in getting the fly down. Wool or opposum rather than dear hair. Although you may want to spin one or two clumps of hair for the fins.(I would use feathers instead) Spinning works best on a bare hook shank. And by spinning, you can varie the color with each spin to achieve that mottled look of a sculpin.
Hmmm,,,,wonder if there are any sculpin in the Rogue?

steelmaniac 11-25-2004 04:27 PM

I will definitely try the spinning technique. i believe that is how I used to make them but it was a while since I made any. Thanks for the help.

Hammer 11-26-2004 08:25 PM

sculpins in the Rogue!
 
Yeah baby!,,and they ,the sculpins spawn in spring=active=and Winter's are this far up and moving fast to the redds,,,bait guys have told of winter steel stuffed with them,,as well as one guy who said the same about summer steel,,in fact,one guy cought a sculpin on a worm,!!!,springtime,,,this is an interesting thread for me, :) ,,i'm going to go look for a magazine i bought this spring==sculpin patterns,,,and info about these little `devilfish'-----------------------------O-K,,,march 04 issue of flyfisherman magazine has patterns,,i've honestly never tryed to log onto their site but they say you can ,and info is there,they say!,,,a timely thread lads!,,, :wink:


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