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mikez 09-29-2004 03:39 PM

more shark stuff
 
I have seen large sharks 3 times in southern Rhode Island waters, all from shore.

The first time, as a kid in the early [Pre-Jaws] 70s, my Dad had taken us fluke fishing off the jetty at Charleston Breachway. We saw a HUGE brown dorsal fin cruising just off the mouth of the breachway. This being early morning of a nice summer day, we informed the gate keeper that he had a big shark in his swimming beach. He replied totally unconcerned that they often saw the big brown ones but they never bothered anybody.

The second was maybe 10 years ago at Watch Hill Lighthouse. I was resting on the seawall on the east side watching the surfers and watching inside the breakers for fish. In the second wave out I spotted a HUGE brown dorsal fin cruising through the surge. The thing was right near the surfers and had to be in view to them, yet they all surfed on without sign of worry. I mentioned it to a couple of surfer dudes who were standing on the wall. Their response was amazingly similar to the one I heard years ago.
"We see 'em all the time!"
The surfers did mention to me that a riproarin bluefish blitz would clean the dudes outta the water quick! :hihi:

The third sighting was also from shore at Watch Hill, off the point. As is often the case, there were large quantities of bluefish in the rip off the tip of the point. I stood on an outer rock with my heavy surf caster reaching WAY out for the blues. Suddenly large bluefish started rocketing out of the water like big missles. Something big and fast was boiling a BIG patch of water and adult bluefish were the target. This time not one but two big dorsals as well as big tail flukes were swirling around MUCH faster than the brown sharks ever swim. I don't know for sure but to me, from a distance, they looked like blue sharks. That was a very cool sighting. I walked back to shore from my distant rock VERY CAREFULLY! :whoa:

It occurs to me writting this that the possible increase in the Great White population could make that Blase' attitude about sharks a bit risky.
I know I will react differently next time an old tree trunk rolls against my waders in a dark surf! :eek: And Full Moon Skinny Dipping is WAY off the agenda!

As an aside, if memory serves, the worst great white attacks ever on the east coast occured in New Jersey where a Serial Human Eater took up residense during the summer. If I'm not mistaken, he swam up very small creeks and into saltponds to catch his bipedal snacks. I think he ate like five guys!

How's that New Moon Worm Hatch on the backside of Quannie look now?

AlanT 09-29-2004 04:39 PM

"As an aside, if memory serves, the worst great white attacks ever on the east coast occured in New Jersey where a Serial Human Eater took up residense during the summer. If I'm not mistaken, he swam up very small creeks and into saltponds to catch his bipedal snacks. I think he ate like five guys!"

You got it - there's a good book about that shark and summer (it was 1916) called Close to Shore (Michael Capruzzo is the author). Interesting read.

artb 09-29-2004 05:00 PM

NJ what about Mass?
 
In 1936 , there was a 12 year old boy killed while swimming off of Matapoisett, Ma.It was about an 8 foot white shark. They are sure it was a white shark cause they got a white shark's tooth out of the boy's body. I am not sure, but I think the tooth is on display somewhere. Getting old and I don't remember where I read it. The NJ attack was up Matawan Creek, I think I read about that in a book called "Shark Attack" around the time of the Jaws Movie. Around 1970 in Charlestown Breachway, one of the RI Park Police shot about a 14 foot shark, one of the harmless species that shouldn't have been killed.

striblue 09-29-2004 05:57 PM

The book, "Close to Shore" concludes that the New Jersey attacKs were probably done by Bull Sharks.

brooklynangler 09-29-2004 06:11 PM

GW on a fly???
 
I seem to remember that there was a Brit who was trying to hook/land a great white on the fly-- I think he was a writer. Anyone ever hear about this or any other guys getting these beasts on the fly???

artb 09-30-2004 05:15 AM

John, The stories I read years ago said that it was a white shark of about 8 foot long and it was later trapped out in a bay, and that it contained human parts, I think that was a pretty good indication that it was the shark that killed. How many people turned up missing? The shark they killed in the Charlestown Breachway was a Basking Shark. :mad:

bonefishmon 09-30-2004 07:07 AM

Back in the early 70's I was surfing near the Weekapaug jetty and had a 20+ Thresher shark surface less than 20 feet from me. I know it was that long because it beached itself shortly thereafter. Large gouge on it's head just behind the eyes. Looked like it may have been prop knocked. Talk about scared!!!! Peed the daylights out of my surf trunks!

Phil

Dble Haul 09-30-2004 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brooklynangler
I seem to remember that there was a Brit who was trying to hook/land a great white on the fly-- I think he was a writer. Anyone ever hear about this or any other guys getting these beasts on the fly???

Great whites are a protected species, so I hope that no one is targeting them.

brooklynangler 09-30-2004 09:54 AM

is that US only??

Dble Haul 09-30-2004 10:22 AM

I believe that it's international, but if that's not the case then someone please correct me.

Smcdermott 09-30-2004 10:47 AM

Mark,

A quick google search indicated that while illegal to "Catch and Keep" a great white it appears you can target them as long as you practice catch and release.



Sean

Dble Haul 09-30-2004 11:48 AM

Well that's a fine howdy-do....thanks for the info.

So who's up for gut-hooking and releasing a bunch of great whites? Anyone? :roll: :rolleyes:

striblue 09-30-2004 01:03 PM

Well, I am man enough to do it!!!!!!!!!!! :smokin: :hihi:

mikez 09-30-2004 05:55 PM

Who's got a good surfboard pattern?


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