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Bob Pink 03-30-2000 08:40 PM

Flies on steroids
 
Ok, I'm still working on a yak-hair pollock.

http://www.stratford-associates.com/images/pollack2.jpg

The longer one didn't fit into the scanner....
The hackles are so long th twist up when they are on the scanner bed. I hope they stay a lot truer in the water.

Oh Terry! How about a 12" yak pollock out at Nahant?

ssully 03-30-2000 11:38 PM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
Bob,

Is this the Terminator series? http://216.71.206.188/images/flytalk/Wilk.gifReal nice!

You would clean house at a certain dam with those.

BTW what size is the yellow eye? I have been trying locally to find some like these without luck.

Bob Pink 03-31-2000 06:43 AM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
ssully,
5/16" diam prismatics (these were witchcrafts) Check
Bears Den 508-880-6226 or Hunters 800-331-8558
(hunters catalogue Part # M0402-0-7) 50 eyes should run about $ 1.50

juro 03-31-2000 08:29 AM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
Bob - I'll bet those would be the ticket for the rocks off Boston Habah!

My experiences with long flies have been affected by difficulties in keeping the profile of the fly right for what they are imitating. Two tricks I know of for making bigger flies retain thier profile in current and retrieve force are (a) building up the foreward body and abdomen like a slim tadpole and (b) using a rigid shape at the head. Page Roger's bigeye baitfish lays materials in a manner to ensure the 'slab' profile, as do others. The eye patch is an important part of the fly design in that example. Some use epoxy heads for this purpose, which also has the effect of spreading the materials out at the roots. I use marabou to build up the abdomen per a coho salmon fly pattern to achieve (a) which a lot of friends have started to do as well. This has both a bulk and foil effect. It may be hard to find in these sizes though!

The fabric heads Gregg Estey uses are an example of addiing rigidity while also ceating the feeding baitfish look. I meant to scan the underwater photos of pogies swimming by, all you can see hundreds of shiny gill plates flared wide open for filter-feeding ahead of barely visible shadows of bodies.

Between the chernobyl peacock herl and the yak hair, those look like some awesome big fly patterns. Like Sully says, looks like you are having a championship season with the tying this spring!

(almost time to chase steelhead...)
from Seattle,
Juro

Lefty 03-31-2000 09:40 AM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
Bob,
You wild tying fool! You got the profile just right, not too wide not too slim. I used the same colors on one of my pollocks. But on the others I went with a brown because of the copper color pollock I've caught of the isle of shoals.
I want to see how we cast these big yakkers, maybe we need the new 2 handers for that. Be glad to have you join me out in Nahant. The vision of those 15-20' vertical cliffs at low tide is awesome and stuck in my mind. MY wifes grandma just got the new town sticker just for me! See ya soon!

TerryW

Bob Pink 04-03-2000 07:29 PM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
Terry,
Who said anything about casting these beasts? I figure I'll need to rig a kite to get these any further than 10' from the tip of my rod... I know it's heresy but drifting these from the bow of the boat might be the best option to present them along some of the harbor structure.

Juro,
I figured i'd try using softex to form the shape of the head. Seemed like it worked well without adding too much bulk like epoxy. I might have to experiment with the gill plate effect that you mentioned. Tie a bit of marabou on each side of the head for some action...

ssully 04-03-2000 09:26 PM

RE:Flies on steroids
 
Bob,

Thanks for the info on the eyes.


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