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juro 03-07-2004 04:42 PM

Anyone up for the ridiculous?
 
Looking at rental properties in the Bahamas, I am finding that their spread and the relative isolation of some of the islands creates insane rental opportunities for FORUM style sorties.

For instance, in the Acklins / Crooked Island chain which boasts one of the biggest flats to deep water to land ratios in the entire chain with legendary bonefishing and virtually no tourist activities I found a rental home that would cost 6 anglers approximately $250 USD FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK!!!!

Acklins is not easy to get to, most likely you'd have to stay overnight in Nassau (awwww pooor us!) to catch the morning flight to the BONEclave ;)

But there are something like 199 other islands in the Bahamas and virtually all of them have bonefish flats!

Here's one waterfront on Grand Bahamas with car and dingy included! http://www.ifb.com/grand-bahama/index.htm :eyecrazy:

This one sleeps 10 but is more during the winter... http://www.vacation-rentals.org/p16418.htm

But you get the gist. Bone-adventure Claves... just give us miles and miles of flats and the collective wisdom of our co-conspirators and it could very well be a week of INSANE bonefishing or at least a terrific break in the winter doldrums.

A box of cubanos on the table, fine rum, a grill for the catch of the day, roll into town for some lobster, etc. Otherwise nothing but hardcore flats.

Anyone interested?

ashley 03-07-2004 05:40 PM

Yes, but not till next year.All my fishing for this year is planned already and my vacation time at work is gone.

Adrian 03-07-2004 06:21 PM

:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

Smcdermott 03-07-2004 06:35 PM

Ditto Ashley's sentiment.

Sean

Dble Haul 03-07-2004 06:35 PM

Well duuuuh......:p

But like Ashley, it would have to be next year for me as well. I've already punched a bunch of holes on my fishing travel ticket for this season.

But hey, I'm not complainin'. :smokin:

Henry 03-08-2004 01:22 AM

Interesting idea,
 
But you'd better be sure of the location otherwise you may have 5 very unhappy anglers tying windknots in your leaders.

I like that sort of adventure but what keeps me back is the uncertainty of the location. I'd want first hand accounts of someone reliable/believeable before making the investment.

Hank

2HandTheSalt 03-08-2004 06:34 AM

Don't have time to write a report right now, but we are just back from <Andros> $480USD for the week for two. Cuda and sharks at the back door, limited bones a short walk, and unlimited bonefishing is a short boat or cab ride away.

I will try to write something up when my slides get back from the lab.

I haven't done the math yet, but I think you could easily put together an excellent 5-day bonefish junket, including a couple of days guided flats boat fishing for under a thousand USD plus airfare. ( Assuming pairs of anglers sharing room and guide.)

juro 03-08-2004 07:51 AM

Re: Interesting idea,
 
Henry -

I appreciate your comments and it's certainly a criteria BUT...

as far as wind knots we're not that kind of group. We'd be in it as a team of explorers. The way I see it, a week on Acklins or Exuma or Andros or any other reasonable Bahamian Island is as good as WE make it, except for weather which only the big guy upstairs controls. So I'll try to live clean and be good to my loved ones to earn extra bluebird days on the flats when I sneak away :D

It's not an outfitting operation, it's a collaborative exploration. We don't need guides, but we might decide to hire them. Or we might not. We will strategize at night and fish our brains out by day. We will learn from each other and from our own mistakes and victories. It's a fishing trip, that's all. Not to sound over-confident but if you put me on a flats-rich Bahamian island and I can't dig out a healthy number of bonefish in a week just shoot me! I just dug a couple out of an ocean-facing marl patch on Aruba and that was hard. A week of flats fishing in the Bahamas hard? I think not.

But if you want first-hand accounts, you might want to join in on the second or third or.... :devil:

Quote:

Originally posted by Henry
But you'd better be sure of the location otherwise you may have 5 very unhappy anglers tying windknots in your leaders.

I like that sort of adventure but what keeps me back is the uncertainty of the location. I'd want first hand accounts of someone reliable/believeable before making the investment.

Hank


Adrian 03-08-2004 09:54 AM

I agree. I love the idea of an exploratory expedition - applying lessons learned over many seasons in similar environments. More like "graduate school". My main thought is picking the right island.

Many Bahamian islands with well established guiding operations guard their flats very jelously - that would rule out Exuma for example, there is some self guiding there but its limited.

Acklins, Crooked, parts of Long Island - there are hundreds of other possibilities. Andros by its sheer size may have a lot of self guiding possibilties also. There is good bonefishing on Nassau by the way - if you know where to go ;) There are some islands where the "guide" just acts as a ferry man and pretty much leaves you alone. That would be my idea of paradise.

juro 03-08-2004 10:39 AM

Well it seems most islands will require a layover at Nassau, so Acklins is a good candidate afterall, eh?

It's ridiculously endowed with flats. I can attest firsthand to that having just flown over it.

It's unexploited by tourism. I would expect that there would be no conflict of interest with any guides there, and that the bonefish would be quite exploitable provided we had mobility to sample the various flats that surround the island and it's neighbor Crooked Island, or provided we can locate the lodging options we could bounce around until we find a place within steps to the flats.

The tourist reviews say this island is incredible for bonefishing solitude, but they complain that there is no one there to enjoy your fishing with, meaning no casinos, night clubs, carnavals, etc. Sounds good to me! Bound to be very affordable too.

My suitcase will be very simple on such a trip. Shorts, sandals, shirt, hat and sunglasses. Basic tying kit, fishing gear. Sunblock. Throwaway cooler with ice, beer and limes.

Bouncing to lodge B from lodge A will only be a matter of stuffing quick dry shirts into the rolling duffel and heading for the other hotel, in the event we do not try to commit to a big cabana style place as shown in the ads.

One things for sure, we won't freeze to death :D

flyfisha1 03-08-2004 10:42 AM

I'd love to do something along these lines, but just as with many of the others it would be next year for me, also.

striblue 03-08-2004 10:55 AM

Since I am planning a trip next year...I would love to get into this....What a great time... great fishing, great Company, Cuban Cigars.... Living on the island....I will never come back.

juro 03-08-2004 11:03 AM

I was hoping I could get you to join in! We need to tell everyone on the island you are Jimmy Buffet, it might get us free drinks and lodging. :devil:

The resemblance is perfect, now you just need to learn how to sing... "wastin' away agin in margaritaville... trying to find my... lost shaker of salt"

You'll be right at home... WADERS? We don' need no schtinkin WADERS!

FredA 03-08-2004 11:47 AM

Should have enough in my trip fund by next year. I'm in.

Henry 03-08-2004 12:01 PM

Hey Juro,
 
I hope you didn't misunderstand my post. I'm all for it...I love an adventure. But what I do want is the most bang for my buck. I don't know how well the crew would do with one vehicle for 6 guys though. I would think two would be needed at a minimum so the group could split up...3 even better. Don't forget, even on a big flat...two can be a crowd...6 guys would be an invasion!!! Car rental on any of the Bahamian out-islands runs at least $60.00 or $70.00 per day. Add to that the cost of fuel (might as well be Jack Daniels considering the price).

What's with the "throw away cooler?"...a fantastic idea we came up with is to use a large "soft-sided" cooler initially as a carry-on bag...dump the contents at your accomodations and fill'er with beer and munchies. Kills two bones with one cast!.

An "overnight" in Nassau isn't so bad. Would give the group a chance to get aquainted and organized. Most early "Out-Island" flights depart at 7:00am so you'd be "On-Island" by 8:00...unpacked and rigged by 8:01...he he! and into your first DIY bone by Tuesday...he he he! "Sick humour!".

I'm keeping my eye on this thread for sure because I have at least one week of vacation time that's "uncommitted" for just such an outing (originally thinking Yucatan someplace).

A place "on the water" with access to a skiff would be ideal. We could take turns being "water-taxi-driver" dropping off and picking up duo's to different flats. "Hartswell Cottages" on Exuma would fit the bill for this...damn the local guides!...there's six of us right?

Hank


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