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smallmouth 12-25-2003 08:52 PM

Tube Flies
 
Hi fellows,

I noticed that a lot of you tie and use tube flies. I've just begun to experiment with the concept and have used some tube flies in my warmwater fishing. I was using offset bait hooks as I had seen recommended on one of the Alaskan Steelhead sites. Sometimes I left the hook loose and sometimes I used little sections of plastic tubing to fix the hook in position. I found the flies effective but I missed a lot of hook-ups. I suspect that the offset in the hook may be responsible for the high percentage of missed strikes. What do you fellows suggest? I'm ready to tie up a batch of flies for winter steelhead here in Southern Ontario.
Thanks,
Don

fredaevans 12-26-2003 03:46 PM

Don, I suspect you're more than right ..
 
that the 'problem' was the off-set nature of the hook. Most tube fly's are rigged with a short shank, ring eye hook. For larger fish either a #4 or # 2 3X. I'm not sure, but I suspect that either Aaron or Redshack could get these in say a size 6 or 8 for more of a 'small fish-small fly' rig.

Drop them a PM.
fae

t_richerzhagen 12-26-2003 04:53 PM

Tiemco 105
 
is offset and one of the more popular tube fly hooks in this part of the world, so I suspect that the offset is not Don's problem with hooking. Were the hooks up or down eye? That could cause a funny angle for the hook to the tube. Were you using a hook holder?

Willie Gunn 12-26-2003 05:35 PM

I would have thought an offset would be a +. If the hook rotates in the tube so it is lying flat at right angles the only way you will hook a fish is because of the offset.

fredaevans 12-26-2003 08:20 PM

Winter runs require a larger hook. Give..
 
Redshack a call and ask for a box of Kamasan #2 B982's.

Similar config. to the #4's noted above, which most of us work with for 'low water work,' but Winter/larger fly's require a larger hook.

These are SWEET!

flytyer 12-27-2003 12:13 AM

Don,

Offset bait hooks will cause the poor hooking problems you noted because of their shape. Bait hooks have a poor bend to hook point ratior. Get yourself some Tiempco 105's or Daichii X510's is #2 and the hooking problem should end.

smallmouth 12-27-2003 09:22 PM

tube flies
 
Thanks for the advice gentlemen!


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