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John Desjardins 11-14-2003 09:25 AM

A first for me
 
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All of us have our little idiosyncrasieswhen we tie that affect our abilities. For me the major one has been that I had a fool for a teacher (myself) who didn't know which side of the tier a vise went on and learned to tie lefty rather than the right handed that I am. I've been noticing for a long time that my production was much slower than I thought it should be.

Last night I decided that since I hadn't tied in months, maybe it was time to try to reverse hands and tie as I should. The fly below is my first tying right handed.


So what are your Idiosyncrasies?

flytyer 11-14-2003 03:14 PM

I tie not less than a half dozen of any given pattern and size. I can't stand to tie on a non-rotary vise. I never tie a whip finish without the use of a Materelli whip finisher. I hold my scissors in my hand at all time by placing a finger loop over my ring finger so that I don't have to pick up scissors everytime I need to cut something. I pre-size a whole dry fly neck or saddle and put the sized hackles in marked zip-lock bags to improve tying efficiency fly consistency. I split my tying thread with a bodkin instead of making a dubbing loop. I use S&M bobbins for my 6/0 and 8/0 thread and Griffin Ceramics for larger threads, flat waxed nylon, and UNI-Stretch. Lastly, I have 22 bobbins loaded with different colors of 6/0 or 8/0 thread and 14 ceramic bobbins loaded with different colors of 3/0 thread, flat waxed nylon, and UNI-Stretch.

SDHflyfisher 11-14-2003 04:54 PM

some one has too much time on their hands:D

i have tried holding my scissors but i constantly think i am going to stab myself in the eye

fredaevans 11-14-2003 05:24 PM

RickMeister: and you called me?? a 'tackle tart?'
 
"I use S&M bobbins for my 6/0 and 8/0 thread and Griffin Ceramics for larger threads, flat waxed nylon, and UNI-Stretch. Lastly, I have 22 bobbins loaded with different colors of 6/0 or 8/0 thread and 14 ceramic bobbins loaded with different colors of 3/0 thread, flat waxed nylon, and UNI-Stretch."

At the bench anyway, I'm small patatos.
:D

Only 'unusual' thing I do is (as I learned at about age 10) is to do all my whip finishing with my fingers. Never did get the hang of the tool.

SDHflyfisher 11-14-2003 05:49 PM

i always use a tool tried with my hands but they came loose

Willie Gunn 11-14-2003 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SDHflyfisher
i always use a tool tried with my hands but they came loose
Worrying, how did you tighten up your hands?:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

SDHflyfisher 11-14-2003 06:08 PM

very funny
i was talking about the whip finish but of course you knew that i least i hope you did

Willie Gunn 11-14-2003 06:11 PM

Of course I did but I could not resist.

I cannot use a whip finish tool too set in my ways.

SDHflyfisher 11-14-2003 06:14 PM

i have only been tying for about five or so years so i'll try just about anything
did it with my hands when i started but i don't know if i was doing it right

flytyer 11-14-2003 07:53 PM

Fred,

And the worse part is, I could use another 3 S&M and 6 more Griffin Ceramic bobbins.

And I didn't list the other tying tools I can't seem to get along without. Like the 3 different sized bodkins, 2 different sized Materelli whip finishers, a hair stacker made by a machinist friend that stacks 7 bunches of hair at one time, 3 different types of scissors that are used for different things when tying, 4 different types of cement used for locking in different types of materials, 2 different material combs, 2 different tweezers, 4 different hackle pliers (although I use the rotating one the most), 3 different bullet head tools, 2 different hair packers, and 3 different dubbing twisters.

Keep in mind that I have been a pro tyer for 20 years (and tying for 41 years) and every tool I have makes tying easier, makes the flies more consistent, or ensures they are of high quality. I am very particular about the tying tools I use and I have disgarded many (either threw them away or gave them away to some unsuspecting person who thought he had to have it) tying tools that don't help in the tying of quality flies (this inclused tying vises).

The only reason I don't have more rods (I have4 single-hand and 3 two-hand), is the cost of raising kids who like to fish and buying them decent equipment. Between my wife and 2 boys there are another 13 rods.

SDHflyfisher 11-14-2003 07:58 PM

i am going to be getting more rods soon if i get the job that i applied for so far i only have a three weight and some bad rods then there is my bamboo rod i don't use it too often a little longer than i would like it

by the way john what is that fly supposed to be looks like a mix of a dry fly and a bugger

fredaevans 11-14-2003 09:12 PM

FT, that's the major difference between your fly's ..
 
and mine.

"Keep in mind that I have been a pro tyer for 20 years..."

I'm a klutz when it come to tieing, you can't afford to be that way. Blessings be upon you.
fae :D

SDHflyfisher 11-15-2003 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flytyer


Keep in mind that I have been a pro tyer for 20 years


you have been a pro for longer than i have been alive

John Desjardins 11-15-2003 09:16 AM

Ok, Besides tying with the wrong hand I have the following idiosyncracies. 4 copies of a fly at a time min, 8 max. Barbs bent down and beads added before tying the first fly, and hooks held on a magnet on the pedestal base. Materials arranged clockwise in a semicircle around the vise in the order they will be used. Deer hair flys tied in 3 parts, all bodies spin all hair, then trim all.

Flytyer, thanks for the response. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has 3 bodkins. I'll have to find a pair of scissors that feel comfortable on the hand.


Fred 'Ill bet all the tools with the vise excepted don't add up to one spey rod.
:devil:

Sean, the fly was meant to be a bugger, but looks more like a hackle fly. I had problems in 3 things, the dubbing kept unwinding, I put too much hackle on, and the whip finish took a couple of trys.

SDHflyfisher 11-15-2003 10:46 AM

definitly way too much hackle


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