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Adrian 07-21-2003 11:13 AM

Spinning fly problem
I've been fishing with a lot of surface patterns recently. Poppers, gurglers, boobies etc. Whatever I do design-wise I eventually end up with so much twist in the tippet it bunches up like a tangled spring. I never had this problem with larger poppers on saltwater flies. Slowing down the cast would probably help a bit but a tight loop is needed when your trying to punch the popper through a 2 foot "hole" in overhanging branches. Anyone else experience this - any other suggestions? Maybe certain leader materials are more susceptible than others? Or maybe they make a swivel small and light enough to not adversely affect delivery & presentation?

Dble Haul 07-21-2003 12:10 PM

What knot are you using to attach the fly? I almost never have twist problems with the flies that you're describing when I use a non-slip mono loop. I tie the loop a bit longer that usual to give the fly more play in the air.

Adrian 07-21-2003 12:19 PM

Come to think of it :rolleyes:

Thanks Mark! I'll try that next time out.

John Desjardins 07-21-2003 02:14 PM

The other question is what test tippet are you using?

Adrian 07-22-2003 10:38 AM


I've been using 2x/10lb both Orvis Super strong and Frog Hair. I'm sure the lighter test lines are more susceptible.

I was checking out Jack Gartsides web site last night and he mentions rounding of the corners on gurglers to reduce their tendency to spin.

I'm thinking the easiest bet is to have a set of ready-to go tippets (I use a loop-to-loop to a regular tapered leader) and then check/change as needed.

DFix 07-22-2003 12:17 PM

Not that I know very much about fishing -
(More about opening flood gates for assault on persona :eek: :D )

Adrain, as well as a loop knot, stiffer or harder leader material; less tendency to twist. My $.02

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