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sean 04-10-2003 10:50 PM

green butt spey variation
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Been messing around trying to get my summer box full and learning how to wing a spey. Will put up pattern instructions once the new fly archives are up in a few weeks.

fredaevans 04-10-2003 10:53 PM

Sean, that pattern is very questionable for Rogue Work.
Please send 3 just to check their "effectiveness." We wouldn't want a "? mark" now would we??

Well done Son!

removed_by_request 04-11-2003 08:05 AM

I would also be willing to bench mark those babies on our GL rivers.

Nice, very nice.

flytyer 04-11-2003 05:57 PM


You've been practicing! Nicely done. If you shorten the wing just a tad (or as my father would say "a whisker") it would look even a bit better, if that is possible.

Stu Farnham 04-11-2003 09:05 PM

You can see my GBS spey at...

CLick on any of the photos for a larger pi and recipe.


juro 04-11-2003 11:53 PM

Sean -

What's the hackle? BEP perhaps?

Nice job.

flytyer 04-12-2003 12:18 AM


Very nice flies indeed!! Most people can learn a lot just by looking at your proportions, which are spot on.


Take a look at the wing length on Stu's spey flies with the mallard wings. This is what they should look like, and it is what I was hinting at in my first post to you. The wing, as clearly shown in Stu's flies, should not reach the end of the hook's bend; but it should end a little bit before the hook bend.

sean 04-12-2003 08:42 PM

Thanks for the tips Flyter! Yeah when I looked at it I thought the wing was a little long. Think I could probably shorten up the body a little as well.

Also need to work on getting that nice hump in the wing like Stus flies have. Very nice flies Stu! I really need some more practice...

Juro it is just plain old burnt goose. Seems to work pretty good on smaller speys.

Fred, once I get the wing right some will be on the way.


Steelheader69 04-12-2003 09:24 PM

Looking good, I have same prob
Nice fly, I have a problem setting my mallard wings down correctly. My big problem is I never had anyone to show me to tie in first place. So everything I've learned, I've learned by experimenting. I'm hoping to make it to the spey round table next week to see if I can gets some hands on. I can do wings, just the mallard never turn out right.

LOL Sean. You know what I did? I sat down one day and checked out how many variations I could tie on the green butt. I started with standard hairwing. Then spey hackle wing. Then spey mallard wing. Skaters, muddlers, I think I ended up with over 20 different variations before I gave up. I was tired. LOL. I'm going to sit down and tie up as many variations as I can so they look display quality (or as close as I can get). I want to put them in a shadowbox. Some people just don't realize the variations out there. I think I have some of the flies still sitting on corks on my fly tying desk. I'll see if I can get some photos of the one's left. I've been pulling some off to use. LOL

Steelheader69 04-12-2003 09:44 PM

Did it really quick
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Went downstairs and took a quick pic. Not the best flies, I was screwing around. Just wanted a hardcopy of variations. I still had a few left, but most have been fished and/or in fly boxes. Here's the pic of what's left.

flytyer 04-12-2003 11:40 PM


The body doesn't need to be shortened, it is fine as it is. To get the mallard to "hug" the body, tie it in by the gray roots of the bronze mallard, and also tie it a little wider than you did so that it sets down on the sides of the body. Another thing to do is pluck the collar feather fibers from the top of the fly. This doesn't take much time and it allows the wing to sit lower because it is not being pushed up by the guinea.

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