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Eric Golden 03-07-2003 09:10 PM

tag ends of guide wrapping
 
I have a question. When I tie off a guide wrapping I am not always able to cut the tag end as close as needed, at that point the tag end is too short to grab in order to get the razor blade in there to cut it right against the wrapping. Is there any suggestions for dealing with these recalcitrant threads (no pun intended).
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At loose ends

John Desjardins 03-07-2003 09:34 PM

Good question. I've run into the same problem and have ended up triming the nub after the 1'st coating with epoxy. Theres got to be a better way.

flyfisha1 03-08-2003 06:10 AM

There's a way to do it without having to cut near the wraps: simply cover the looped piece of thread used to pull the tag end of the wrapping thread under the wraps with some room to spare, then pull the loop out from beneath the wraps when you're ready, and there will be no tag end left to cut (it's completely beneath the wraps). Good luck!

JimW 03-08-2003 07:28 AM

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I'll second flyfisha1's repsponse. Check out the pic below. If you pull the loop part way through then cut the tag end before pulling the loop all the way through the tag will be buried under the wraps. Try to get the tag at least 3/4 of the way under the wrap.

Use the same size thread for creating the loop under your wrap. I only used that yellow backing to show contrast. A thick material like the 30lb backing can leave you with a loose wrap.

Eric Golden 03-09-2003 05:45 AM

Tag ends on guide wraps
 
Thanks for your replies. Cutting the tag end before pulling it through Is such an elegent solution. Now why didn't I think of that. Flyfisha1 I don't want to hear you complaining about the winter while you are comfortably ensconsed in Florida. Have some mercy on us poor fools who are slogging it out in New York.
Jim W. thanks for the photo. It helped.

Nooksack Mac 03-10-2003 03:41 AM

Another way to deal with that "stubble" left when your closest trim with razor or scissors isn't quite close enough: burn it. First separate the stub into fuzz with scissors, bodkin or needle. Turn it to the bottom of the rod. Quickly (less than two seconds) flame it with match or lighter. If you take a second too long, you'll smoke and/or burn through the thread. But done properly, the fuzzy stub will disappear.

saltRon 03-11-2003 11:23 PM

Tag ends
 
Hi guys

Have not been arround for quite a long time.

The best way to burry any tag end on the over rap is to pull the tag at 90 degrees to your wrap in point ,it builds a little tent snip as tight AS YOU CAN GET TO the tent ,, the tent will cover the cut portion almost compleyely. A little singe will eliminate any hairs and just massage the remaining wraps to cover the cut portion.

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Tom H. 08-12-2003 01:53 PM

The best and cleanest method I've found (Courtesy of L.A Garcia's video) is to use a bobbin threader instead of a piece of heavier thread.

Leave your tag end long enough to get a hold of and pull it and the bobbin in opposite directions.

The tag end will be left under the over wraps every time.

daveg 08-16-2003 07:26 PM

L. A. Garcia's book is very clear how to pull the thread under the wrap and breaking it off below the windings. He builds a thread pulling wire loop using guitar string, a piece of dowel and epoxy. His book is very good with nice pictures.


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