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dansteelieman 03-04-2003 07:36 PM

Dan's March Madness
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Ok, I was at the vice tonight and developed a new pattern that will soon be filling my boxes. I figured I would show you it, and see what you guys think.

Since it's March, I had to give it a unique name that fits the spring season! I think it's cute ;) :D

pmflyfisher 03-04-2003 08:42 PM

Nice, but what is its "IPSSR" ?

Very key

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BobK 03-04-2003 09:09 PM

Good looking fly!
That one ought to wake 'em out of their lethargy (caused by 32.5 degree water)! Should make a very good spey pattern.


PS - whether it catches fish or not, it certainly caught my eye!

pmflyfisher 03-05-2003 07:04 AM

IPSSR = Inches Per Second Sink Rate

Spey flies need to be sparsely tied otherwise there sink rate on our GL rivers with short drifts and fast currents will not allow it to get into the strike zone 1-2 feet from the bottom.

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dansteelieman 03-05-2003 07:10 AM

Yes, using lead wire on the shank also can hel this. I usually do this on most of my GL patterns. What also works is slipping a tungsten bead on before you tie your fly on that is capable of sliding up and down. This works great at times.

removed_by_request 03-05-2003 08:08 AM

What works best is a handful of gremlin split shot.:devil:

Always found with steel that bottom dragging is highly over rated. Take a good look at thier eyes.

They look up for a reason. IMO if you are 3-4' deep in a 7' hole you are deep enough to get them to smack your fly. Unless of course you are talking about flossing the fish. :tsk_tsk: :tsk_tsk:

dansteelieman 03-05-2003 08:15 AM

Come here steelie.....steelie.....steelie! Yeah, if they are aggressive enough to attack it, then you don't need to be right on the bottom.

In winter though, I usually will be concentrating on getting down deep, quickly. Sometimes fish will have "lockjaw" and you have to put it right in front of their face; especially stale, holdover fish.

removed_by_request 03-05-2003 06:46 PM

Still don't need to drag bottom in the winter. i've had fish come up many many times. You need flash baby flash.

BobK 03-06-2003 06:47 AM

mjyp is right...
Flash, baby, flash are magic words to me. I even add a trace of sparkle to my egg patterns, or a small fine flashabou "milk trail" to them.. seems to work wonders!!!


pmflyfisher 03-06-2003 10:11 AM



MJYP, has posited he does not use egg patterns !

I need fly fishers like him working downstream of me on the river. Will take that scenario every time.

:chuckle: :chuckle:

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removed_by_request 03-06-2003 11:22 AM

I posted they were my least liked fly. If I were fishing downstream of you, you would not have time to fish. You would be awed by my fish catching ability. Probably ask me to autograph MS's book.

Great pattern for the PM boys flossing fish off the redds isn't it Hal???

I think the ESL is the one you hated.

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