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11-26-2003 08:22 PM
Philster Hey Blue

Yeah it did feel different casting. To be honest in the saltwater fishing I do, 10 wt and under I like to focus on casting and 11 and up on fish fighting.

I flat out don't like casting an 8 weight xi with a full line because of that soft tip. But give me an 11 wt or 12 wt and start throwing Rio Deep Sea or Depth charges etc. and there wasn't a better rod on the market for me. If the keep the good and throw out the bad on the new rods it'll be a winner!
11-26-2003 08:04 PM
BlueH20
rplxi

Philster
Thats is an interesting note you posted on the xi tip flexing basically out of the way while you are fighting a big fish, I can definetly see the advantage of getting the tip out of the way and fight the fish off the mid section and butt Which is exactly what the xi felt like. I never thought of it in that context. That rod is a fish fighting machine just felt a little different casting it to me. Hopefully the xi2 will have the same fighting ability, which I have not tried yet on tarpon, But come the end of January I will be in hot pursuit of the silver king.
Casting the 10wt xi2 is probably the easiest casting rod I have used, I'm looking forward to putting it to the test, if the tarpon gods are on my side.
blueh20
11-26-2003 06:59 PM
Philster
Re: sage xi2-10wt

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Originally posted by BlueH20
The rplxi didnt really have a smooth taper transition down the rod for my tastes, it was real stiff through the mid section which made the tip feel spongey to me, it threw nicely but just wasnt quit right for me.
Interesting note on that spongey tip. Alot of the folks who worked on that rod were proud of that tip. They designed it to fold down out of the way when fighting a fish. Have a buddy hold your line and play him like a tarpon with a good side angle on him. Put a good bend into an xi and vary the butt angle as you do it. regardless of rod angle the top third of the rod pretty much maintains a straight line right at the fish , or your buddy:hehe: Very little stress on the tip until you get right to the boat.

They were sweet rods. You are right, they could have been a little faster, but I still hate to see them go...

Phil
11-26-2003 05:58 AM
Stevo Greg

How true... I did read somewhere that fishing tackle is made to catch fishermen as well as fish!
11-23-2003 08:56 PM
Greg Pavlov
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Originally posted by Stevo
Quoting some *old* Sage technology there Greg with the DS and RPL+!
One advantage of running behind a generation or two is that the rods tend to be much cheaper that way. And it is still not clear to what extent these "generations" reflect performance as opposed to marketing.
11-22-2003 03:05 PM
Stevo Quoting some *old* Sage technology there Greg with the DS and RPL+!

I own a 9ft - 5# RPL+ and use it on Mackerel and school Bass (under 3lb) in the UK... Great fun rod with quite a back-bone.
11-21-2003 05:24 PM
Greg Pavlov
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Originally posted by juro
I...Of course the 5-pc 8wt RPLXi travel rod was the cat's ass for traveling to the carribe especially if you wanted to hide it in the suitcase to prevent the wife from discovering the real reason for the second honeymoon in the Bahamas The 10wt 4-pc VPS and or 2-pc 10wt DS2 were both absolute sweeties to cast and fish as well.
That particular RPLXi and the 10 wt DS2 are two of my favorite Sage rods. A third is the 6 wt RPL+.
11-21-2003 05:20 PM
Greg Pavlov
Re: loco alto

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Originally posted by BlueH20
Loco
Yes I think the new technology is coming through again in these rods. Sage calls there's"Generation 5 Graphite" Maybe its hype. But the new xi2 is aboyt .7oz less wt than the rplxi in the 10 wt.
So they're in the same league, tho a bit heavier,
than the ancient technology DS2 series....
11-20-2003 09:44 PM
BlueH20
roll cast

Stevo
I thought the same thing about roll casting the rod. I tried to do a roll cast to shake out some line and it all fell into a clump about 20" in front of me, I tried several times and kind of shrugged my shoulders, thinking it was the line also. But you know, this rod is designed to shoot line with awesome speed into the wind, and I am impressed with it for that, and tight loops!!! So I will forgo the roll casting with it. Nice chatting with you.
Blueh20
11-20-2003 01:01 PM
Stevo I thought it was just me!
I couldn't get the Xi2 to roll cast either. I put it down to the WF line that was on the trial set-up... Spooky!

The XP 8# feels like holding virtually nothing in your hand compared to the Xi2 and makes a great smaller flats rod.
11-19-2003 06:53 PM
BlueH20
loco alto

Loco
Yes I think the new technology is coming through again in these rods. Sage calls there's"Generation 5 Graphite" Maybe its hype. But the new xi2 is aboyt .7oz less wt than the rplxi in the 10 wt.
It does feel very light-surprisingly so-. I did notice that the rod didnt roll cast well unless you only had a short amount of line out. But the speed and tight loops well make up for that in my mind.
Blueh20
11-19-2003 03:00 PM
loco_alto thanks for the report. Rods and people are all unique, and so are combinations of the two. For my casting style, the saltwater T&T Horizons remain well on the top of the heap for natural and easy line speed. Its interesting when you consider how "old" these rods are (8 years old) and they still seem to sell. With a small but well-timed double haul they eat line and backing like nobody's business, and have enough feel to cast well in close. I'd be interested to try my trusty T&T 9x9 against the new Xi2, just for kicks. I'd bet the Xi2 feels lighter in the hand, probably benefitting from more recent technology. Nice to see that there can actually be some design progress mixed in with all the hype surrounding each new rod that hits the market
11-19-2003 09:47 AM
BlueH20
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Hey guys.
I grew up on the RPL series of rods and it seems like whenever I pick up one of sages faster rods, it just fits. Lots of great other rods out there. I was impressed on how I could throw into the wind with the xi2. But I will say that I really needed to dbl haul with quit a jerk on the line to to get a 12" loop out there. When I hauled it hard it shoot that line so fast that I am going to have to learn my aiming skills all over again. I am thinking of replacing my 8wt with an 8wt sage xp for my small flats rod and sticking with the xi2 in the 10-11wt, descisions descisions.
Blueh20
11-18-2003 02:37 PM
Stevo I recently had a cast with the new Xi2 8# on a Sage open day.
Very nice, I must say and as Juro stated the rod must suit the caster and his/her style... It certainly suited mine! Also on test was the TCR in 6 and 9#. Boy do those rods toss a line! A little to stiff for my liking but designed for a job.(see the ad)
I currently use an XP in a 8#. I like it's light weight feel and responsive tip. It lets me feel the fish fighting better... Even if they are small!
11-17-2003 10:46 PM
juro I am a big fan of the Sage single handers from way back. In fact I like a lot of the new rods coming onto the market, got to try a bunch in Denver. As always, there are some line weights in every model that are hot and other line weights in the same model that are not... but that's to be expected.

For instance, the old 9'6" 8wt 2-pc RPL... now that was a nice summer steelhead, large trout, estuary striper, atlantic salmon and bonefish rod all wrapped up into one although it required almost a 5' tube. Of course the 5-pc 8wt RPLXi travel rod was the cat's ass for traveling to the carribe especially if you wanted to hide it in the suitcase to prevent the wife from discovering the real reason for the second honeymoon in the Bahamas The 10wt 4-pc VPS and or 2-pc 10wt DS2 were both absolute sweeties to cast and fish as well.

I could also list a whole bunch of rods I felt were duds from virtually all manufacturers but there as just an many who'd say they were awesome.

A rod is only as good as the degree to which it matches the caster's style and preferences. Congratulations, it sounds like you hit paydirt!
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