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06-25-2003 02:37 PM
jcc_00
Hook Keeper cont.

Thinking more about it, a small "S" hook would perform the same function and be available in any hardware store in small sizes to accomplish the same thing. Has anybody tried this approach and if so, can you comment on whether it was convenient and/or effective ?
06-22-2003 06:41 AM
jcc_00
Hook Keepers and the Lot

- I once saw a small device used on a two hander that was a attached to the second guide bracket. The device looked like a small cork with a dowel through it at a slight angle. The leader went around the reel seat and up to the second guide and then reversed on the small dowel. Then the hook was slipped into the leg of the first guide in the right direction for traveling with the rod. The device was very small and just let the line reverse direction to hold the double salmon hook at the first stripping guide.
It looked pretty Yankee to me but it worked pretty well - I have to admit I had never tried in on my 7136-4, but I usually am restricted to single hooks anyway. Have at it.......
06-18-2003 03:29 PM
Topher Browne The "Fun Police" just left my house having collected all my sink tips and anything with rubber legs. They did not get my one and only Intruder or my Stoneflies.

Why didn't somebody tell me about those guys? Tougher than the guys in suits in "Matrix Reloaded!"
06-18-2003 03:20 PM
fredaevans
William, you may be right. The Brit's couldn't

keep the Scots under control and they've had several hundred years to try. I think it's that "Kilt" thing they ware?
06-18-2003 02:21 PM
inland That about does that- the fun police will be issueing Malcolm a citation.

Cheers,

William
06-18-2003 01:08 PM
fredaevans
Well, so much for 'tradition' and Willie. Sheesh!

Quote:
Originally posted by Willie Gunn
I would only use wooden rods for holding up the peas.
Duck and disappear.

Malcolm:hehe:
Too late to duck and disappear; we know where you live ... even if it's 'far, far away.' "Bruno," a rather large Italian fellow, will be looking you up.
06-18-2003 12:22 PM
Willie Gunn
Silks ok but

I would only use wooden rods for holding up the peas.
Duck and disappear.

Malcolm:hehe:
06-18-2003 06:39 AM
Salar-1 Got a hook-keeper on my 7136 and it's STAYING !!I use it to place the rod in the trunk of the car and to walk through the bush to those secret spots on the Matapedia etc !(down near the cork seems to keep the hoook from catching onto branches etc.That being said i dohoo it onto a guide but run the leader through a reel piller instead of around the sharp edges of the reel foot
Cheers
Brian
06-17-2003 09:55 PM
fredaevans
Ah ye of little faith ...

Inland you build a heck of a rod (Inland was sweet enough to send me his 'custom built' Burkie... Dear God does this man know what he's doing!!!) but as they would say in "Fiddler on the Roof."

TRADITION!!

I 'learned' on a greenheart with a silk line about 50 years ago. Nothing like it ... back to "roots."

Sigh ... wish the darned things didn't cost so much, re-greasing your line twice a day, etc.

Malcom's in the Grove! Bless you my Son (should say Willie's probably as old as I am, ergo .. the Tradition.)

Life is pretty darned good.
fae
06-17-2003 09:31 PM
inland Since we are in chipper moods, Malcolm, I have to point out some blasphemy-

What on are earth are you doing casting silk on graphite?

I cry foul as that is completely against the rules- wood and silk only.

Tight lignes,

William
06-17-2003 07:44 PM
fredaevans
I vote with Willie on this one .... crass, very crass.

Quote:
Originally posted by BobK
Call me a Philistine or whatever you want - me, I just like to catch fish, and while the rod is critical, I consider cork (even 3A grade) "expendable".

BobK
We, of UK per- sway- shun (that's three single malts under your "belt") would never treat our horses, women .. or rods with such distain.:hehe: Oil your reels, Carnuba wax your rods, light wash on rinse cycle in the washer for our wet flys (Woolite), stiff upper lip .... very manly men all. And not a Viagra user in the bunch.
06-17-2003 06:06 PM
kush Malcolm,

Please, feel free to criticize whomsoever you please! I was not trying to defend Sage, rather I was trying to explain a North American view of hook keepers on double handers.
06-17-2003 05:51 PM
Willie Gunn
Sorry I spoke

I did not realise I would cause such a fuss when I critised, all be it slightly, the Sage 7136 4.
When moving by car I usually turn the fly to ensure its hair stays in place.
I feel that if Sage thinned the handle where the reel fitting is the fly would clip in beside the reel foot. Just to upset you all a little bit more I never liked Sage reel fittings, I have to be very careful in selecting the right Hardy 3.75"W as only one fits the Sage. The Hardy pulls the balance point nicely back to the cork. I had a nice picture of a B&W solution but there are too many pixies or goblins or some such.

Malcolm
06-17-2003 04:37 PM
Topher Browne Malcolm: Kush and I are on the same page as usual (although I have yet to catch Intruder madness, a visit to the West Coast would surely infect me!).

Kush makes a good point about the direction of the fly when the rods are affixed to a rod rack on the hood/roof of one's car. If one uses a hookkeeper and not the method he describes, the fly ends up looking like one of those "troll dolls" hanging from a rearview mirror (i.e. a 'Don King' hairdo, as in boxing promoter).

See "Update on Gaspe' Fishing" for a brief fishing report on the start to the season.

Best regards, TB
06-17-2003 02:49 PM
kush
Hook keepers

Gardener,

I don't think that Sage is leaving off the hook keeper to be "naff" (which I assume means cheap), in fact I believe it is a question of style. Most of the North American doublehanders do not use hook keepers. In fact the very first one - my beloved Sage 9140-3 (which I built myself) - had one, due to the fact that all my single handers had them. As it turns out - I wish I'd left it off. The problem is that just above the cork is where the balance point of most rods is, it is therefore the place you put your hand when you carry the rod. It is uncomfortable and annoying, if I used this rod more I'd remove it!

In being part of the designing and testing of the CND Specialist rods as well as being involved in introducing the CND line to North America, one of the first cosmetic suggestions we made to CND's master designer Nobuo was that he leave the hook keepers off (they were even cool little collapsible ones) as nobody in North America would use them.
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