|05-26-2003 05:59 AM|
Salt Two Hander
Juro is cooking up something in the two handed salt class. Leave it to Juro to somehow bridge the PNW traditions and the outer reaches of Monomoy Island on Cape Cod. I have these visions of Juro talking to Haig-Brown in the swirling mists of BC getting input on the perfect tool for the beach.......
|05-25-2003 10:12 PM|
My limited experience with two-handed rods in the salt makes me lean toward faster, 'Euro-style' rods in the 12'-14' lengths. The set-up gives a considerable distance advantage over the standard 9' x 9 wt. striper/bluefish rod. I overhead cast with shooting heads--no spey casting from the beach.
I fish two-handed in the surf, but still prefer a 9' rod from a boat: distance is not a concern from a boat (boats move, beaches don't--at least not very quickly!), and I still have not figured out a good way to land a fish in a boat by myself with a two-hander.
Thomas & Thomas, located in the Bay State, makes a 12' x 12 wt. two-hander for the striper/bluefish market; it's a cannon and a superb rod. I'd rate the rod closer to a #10/11 wt., and not a true #12 wt.
Rumor has it that Massachusett's own Juro Mukai of CND rods is currently developing a two-hander for the surf. Juro guides full-time for stripers; keep an eye peeled for this new offering.
|05-25-2003 08:24 PM|
Well, so far I have a couple of rods but I am just startiing out (2yrs.) I have an older Sage 7136-4 and a new 8150-4. The 8wt has much more authority with a Windcutter 7/8/9, but the 7wt casts like a dream with a Wulff 7/8 DT. The distinction is so different that I would say the 7wt is a trout rod and the 8wt is a true salmon rod. I wish we had more salmon activity here on the East coast - short of Canada there isn't much salmon activity except for a brief run in May.......in New England
I love the fluid motion of the long rods although I am still in a steep learning mode - we are trying to figure out some way to fish the salt effectively with a two hander.
|05-11-2003 04:16 AM|
I would have to say that I am in the 99% class as far as time with the Speyrod and the rest of time with single it is Bamboo.
Have been playing with several switch proto-types and the verdict is still out on those.
Have cast a Meiser 10'6" for #7/8 and was very impressed.
As for Hal and 5120 Sage I think that that is just a dream of his.
The 5120 would make it for half ponders but would skeptical of chasing anything large with it.
Would like to try one for the Yellowstone and hoppers that Hemingway wind really can cause you to reach for a Spey rod.
|05-09-2003 07:20 AM|
That's not the problem...
To define it right, the only time you have to dry out a fly when fishing is when they are covered with fish slime. (Washing in water after catching a fish, and judicious patting with an "amadou" pad helps, too!)
|05-08-2003 11:19 PM|
I use my 2-handers with dry flies for steelhead quite often. I have not had to false cast to "dry the fly" as people have been taught to do with a single-hand trout rod. It is not necessary to use anything other than standard spey casts to properly fish a dry fly with a 2-hander. Since we are picking up a fly and casting it with considerable energy when spey casting, the cast itself removes the excess water from the fly without false casting. I have also used dry flies spey cast with a single-hand rod and have not had problems with water-logged flies.
|05-07-2003 10:56 AM|
Based on the "I'm in Love" thread, I will have to give that Sage 5120-4 a test drive. I flexed it at the shows, but that just ain't the same as giving it a real swing over something that might just pull back.
Look forward to fishing the Meiser 10'6" for #7/8. I've also heard nice things about the 10'6" for a #8/9. The last of the single-handed rod collection is in danger.......
Pont Couvert, Alice, Adams, Matalik, Heppel..........can't wait!
|05-07-2003 07:58 AM|
I have to agree with mjyp
Yeah, mjyp is right about 5-weights on tribs (unless you are going to keep the fish you catch)! Anything BIG and you can land 'em, but you worry 'em to death.
But it would be a great rod for trout, bass, etc. Fun to cast, and you can learn how to do dry flies on the spey. Hey, some of those Michigan streams are BIG.
|05-06-2003 11:50 PM|
I will bring mine for late June. It is the 10'6" Switch 7/8, a little light for my liking considering where it will be used.
Don't say I did'nt warn you,
|05-06-2003 09:49 PM|
that 12 5w is a POS for fish of any size. Not enough umph to fight steel or salmon properly. How you can only target 5-6# fish is beyond me, since they decide when they want to bite. Mr. Big is always out there, imagine a 20# hunk of steel on that thing. It will be another fish story of how I lost it all due to under gunning.
That 11' something Meisner rod sounds like the ticket if memory serves it comes in an 8 and 9w. That will stick any thing that swims our GL waters.
|05-06-2003 09:22 PM|
Now you're talking!
That's more like it! With your son "going in the corps", that's one less mouth to feed, and one less kid to buy clothes for, give spending money to, buy clothes for, etc. Hell, you could probably afford one for each hand!:hehe: :hehe:
|05-06-2003 09:06 PM|
The new sage 5120-4 12 foot 5 weight should be a great dry fly spey rod for trout and small steelhead and salmon. Small I guess is under 6 pounds to me. That rod should be able to handle those size fish. I cast it both ways at the Michigan Clave last week, and it was sweet.
It will be in my arsenal some day soon.
Let me know when another one comes up on ebay or the ultra light spey black market or something like that. You know what I mean.
|05-06-2003 08:29 PM|
|Topher Browne||I wonder if that 10 and 1/2' Meiser Two-Handed Rod that I saw on the rotating banner on the SpeyClave would make a nice dead-drift dry fly rod for those of us who must have two hands on a rod?|
|05-06-2003 06:43 PM|
Hey, Hal, think about this:
That's another of the reasons for my little 11 foot 3 inch rod - I can overhead cast easily with it if I have to, and mending line is a dream! And, it is light enough to be sporting with smaller fish!
|05-06-2003 02:57 PM|
Does any body use a two hander with dry files ?
Seems not practical now that I am thinking about it.
Can't see false casting the two hander to dry and redirect the cast of the dry fly like we do with a single hander.
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