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03-15-2003 10:26 PM
Smolt Topher,

Thanks for the lead, but I think I'll stick to arctic fox.

CK
03-15-2003 04:00 PM
Topher Browne
favorite flies?

Dear Smolt,

I purchased a lot of Templedog Hair 1 1/2 years ago from the aforementioned flyshop. I no longer see it listed in the current catalog--I would not be surprised if the product was discontinued through a need to be p.c. Templedog hair may still be available via special order.

If not, you can try Hakan Norling at www.norlingsalmonflies.a.se

My Swedish is none too good, however fly fishing is an international language!

TB
03-14-2003 05:33 PM
Smolt WRKE,

While you were writing this post, I was looking at the Doak catalog. I agree, if he sells them they must be legal.

Thanks,
03-14-2003 05:08 PM
wrke Smolt
I can't imagine NB would object. They're so light as to be virtually weightless. Plus, WW Doak sells both green and black stoneflies. And they're located in the center of NB fishing. I've used them there for years.
bill
03-14-2003 05:01 PM
Smolt Thanks WRKE. I ordered one from Hunter's to see what it looks like in the flesh.

I wonder whether the bead, even though its plastic, would be viewed as "weight", thereby making the fly illegal in New Brunswick where only unweighted flies can be used?
03-14-2003 03:52 PM
Smolt In my old age I appear to have become obsessive about things related to fishing.

I have the answer regarding "Temple Dog" hair. It is in fact dog hair and, I am told, very hard to find in the U.S. (most likely because of dog lovers' -- of which I am one -- repugnance to viewing a dog as being loveable or useful only when alive). My original comment about Fu dogs -- an ancient Chinese temple dog -- was more on the mark than I suspected.

On the subject of the kinds of natural material one will and won't use for tying, about 20 years ago, I bought a piece of monkey hair to tie some Silver Monkey flies. I snipped one piece of hair from that hide and could never touch it again. It just gave me the creeps.

BTW, I got the information about Temple Dog hair from Hunter's Angling Supplies, as many of you may know, a very helpful place to do business for fly tying supplies. I have ordered some arctic fox hair. Hunter's also had Icelandic Horse Hair, but at $5 a package, I wanted to see it before I bought any.

Regards
03-14-2003 03:51 PM
wrke It's a wet fly. Many times tied on a double. Put a 90 degree bend in a straight pin, insert a small bead (most of the time yellow) next to the head. Tie in on top of hook. 4 or 5 turns of small silver wire as tag. Body is bright green floss. Varnish or lacquer body. Black hair wing. Then grizzly hackle tied parachute style at base of bead. Black head.
03-14-2003 03:06 PM
Smolt
Green Stone Fly

Is this fly a floating fly or, like the Ingall's Butterfly, is it meant to sort of hover just below the surface? Thanks to Topher Browne, I have found a picture of the fly on the Web. If anyone knows where I can find the tying instructions I would appreciate it if you would point me to them. Thanks in advance for your help.
03-14-2003 03:02 PM
Smolt Thanks WRKE.
03-14-2003 12:12 PM
wrke Smolt
In my experience, the hair used most frequently is Arctic Fox tail, but one of the absolute best is Icelandic Horse Hair. It's translucent, has action similar to AF, has long, flowing "guard hairs" and is available in longer lengths.
Bill
03-14-2003 12:02 PM
Smolt Thanks WRKE and Topher.

Topher,

I found the picture of the stone fly.

The search you suggested for Temple Dog hair pretty much duplicated the information I found in my original search, including the sites written in Swedish and Norwegian. When you say: "Temple Dog hair is the preferred winging material of modern Scandinavian fly-tying masters", it suggests to me that there is a specific type hair referred to as "Temple Dog" hair.
While I presume any soft, fine, compressible hair -- like Arctic Fox e.g. -- can be used, if you get a chance, I would like to know whether there is a specific type of hair that is normally used to tie the "Temple Dog" type flies. Thanks again.
03-14-2003 11:25 AM
Topher Browne
Favorite Flies

Smolt,

Temple Dog hair is the preferred winging material of modern Scandinavian fly-tying masters. It is very soft, provides a lot of action in the water, and slims down nicely when tied in correctly. Try a "Google" search under 'Hakan Norling' or 'Temple Dog Fly.'
A well-known fly shop in Southern N.H. has a photo of the Green Stonefly in their current catalog; don't know of any Web tying instructions

WRKE,

I do tie a Temple Dog wing in backwards, fold it back, and then secure with several wraps. It is not any more secure, but it helps give a 'teardrop' shape to the wing. As Mikael Frodin would say, you want the fly to look as if it might swim away on its own.

Lady Amherst, Inland,

If, as you hand your license and registration to the RCMP officer you also present a fresh hot cup of Tim Horton's and a Green Stonefly to Canada's finest, it greatly mitigates the extent of the potential fine.
03-14-2003 01:41 AM
inland Oiu, Oiu, Monsier Browne,

Especially the Tim Hortons in St. Leonard on the highway through the '40 mile' woods. Remember, the RCMP does indeed patrol that wretched stretch of highway 17 at 2AM! Ouch on the fine

William
03-13-2003 11:43 PM
wrke Smolt, If I'm right, the secret to a temple dog wing is that it's tied in reverse — that is wing tied in facing forward, then turned back toward rear of the fly by tying a wing over the top tied in conventionally (facing back) — which helps to keep the first wing facing back. The idea is that the temple dog wing is higher (more vertical) than a conventional wing. Perhaps Topher can confirm how he ties his wings.

My choice of flies depends highly on the river and season. One of my top choices for Russia is, in fact, a red/black temple dog tube fly. For NAmerican rivers I also like green highlanders, blue charms and a Gaspé fly — picasse. Also undertakers. When water temperatures call for dries, I like bombers (dead drift) and waller wakers (waking flies). In the late season when weather/water really cools off streamers become productive. I especially like a very, very sparsely tied streamer of my own design — a skinny minny. And ocassionally, I even will use a bunny leach.
03-13-2003 10:41 PM
LadyAmherst
Mr Browne

Here's my offer:
Un café et "doughnut" chez Tim's ( I pay).
I roll-up the rim and win a Stonefly??

Semble juste, non??

:hehe:
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