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02-20-2003 10:50 PM
Adrian Nice tie John!

Yes BWOs do get small. On the Housy and Farmington back in November size 28 was the order of the day!
02-20-2003 08:22 PM
John Desjardins Thanks guys for more constructive comments. I do have BWO's in #22 which isn't much more than 1-1.5 mm longer than this fly. What I've got planned for this fly is to reduce the # of tails, thin out the head and wing.

Brad you have valid points on the tails breaking or bent. My thinking on including them was more along the line of providing the fly with a stance in the water to keep it in the surface film.
02-20-2003 06:06 PM

Yeah, they DO get that small. In the Catskills, they start off early, and I even fish size 14s. As the season progresses, they get smaller and smaller, and by early winter, they are "midges".

Probably not all of the same species, but they sure look like miniatures of the same bug!

02-20-2003 04:42 PM
Brad John, I did not know that BWOs got that small. It looks a lot like a trico spinner that I tie in cream and black. I make the wing sparse and even longer. It is very easy to grab a natural and trim the wing on the stream. One other thing that I have noticed is that the tails on small bugs are very fine indeed. Often you will even find them broken off or bent. I do not tie tails on flies that small, if the trout does not mind a hook coming out of the flies ass he probably is not counting tails.
02-19-2003 10:56 AM
John's White Thread

"Thread: White 8/0 (olive will be used when I get it)"

Untill you get olive colored thread, you can use an olive-green magic marker to color the length of thread you are using...

Just unspool some thread over the point of the marker, then respool it and tie your flies.

You can do this right off of the bobbin, the ink smell of the marker will wear off long before your blue wing olive hits the water.

I do this in a pinch, and it works just fine. :hehe:
02-18-2003 08:58 PM
John Desjardins Thanks Pete, your suggestion is duely noted. Putting too much material into a fly is a problem that I perpetually face. Some flys I've learned to layout what I think I need then split the pile in half and tie.
02-18-2003 08:27 PM
FrenchCreek John:
Looks real good to me. I would only comment on the wing size Vs. overall fly size. I would prefer a smaller wing, maybe less density rather than side to side length. This may give the fly more wing transparency.
Just a comment.
02-18-2003 01:01 PM
John Desjardins
An experiment

I've been working on a blue wing olive midge pattern and thought it was ready for comments.

Hook: Tmc 101, size 26
Thread: White 8/0 (olive will be used when I get it)
Tail: Olive micro fibrets
Body: Olive dubbing
Wing: Blue dun poly yarn, tied spinner style

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