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10-05-2002 07:30 AM

been there, done that! sounds like you guys want to put a trip together, IM GAME, count me in.
09-26-2002 09:05 PM
striblue Hey Guys..this was just about a book...remember.
09-26-2002 05:26 PM
Philster As a test, I found $796 from atlanta in june... didn't know where you would fly out of. try the airlines themselves. I saved over $100 on my flight (310 instead of 435 I think) by going directly through Alaska instead of the online travel sites.
09-26-2002 05:17 PM

I must be doing something wrong because all I can get is flights for almost $2,000. Brutal. Even on Hotwire all I get is $965. Maybe I won't be going.
09-26-2002 04:35 PM
Philster For spring and fall, flying into Los Cabos (San Jose del Cabo) is cool for the east cape, or you can go into La Paz. I VERY MUCH RECOMMEND LOS CABOS! Lots of delays into La Paz. For late summer in Loreto, you fly into Loreto... One shortish strip, left to right for take off, right to left for landings, try not to pass directly behind the idleing engines when you "deplane" onto the tarmac

Alaska, and United definitely go into Cabo, I would assume southwest would have some flights. A buddy flew in from Huntsville Alabama once. Don't recall the carrier.

For Loreto, you usually have to fly to Los Angeles, and connect to Aero California which is actually a mexican airline. Good one too. Better food, and hot young "stews". Shows you what a lack of anti-discrimination laws can do Just joking guys, I'm creeping on 40 and out of the job market at the moment. I support us "old folks" being protected... But they are cute

Cabo San Lucas is no place for a fly fisher to be IMO, unless you want to go on a cruiser ride and troll. For the east cape stick to "Punta Colorada" north to La Paz. Lots of great "resorts" of varying expense up and down the coast. Don't want to violate any anti-commercial rules (really don't, I think this site is B*tch*n' and want it to be strong sponsor-wise), but if this thing gets serious, know that there will be tons of options and price ranges.

Hardest choice is time of year. That dictates location to a great degree. Much like anadromous fish, the pelagics come in by way of cabo, move up the sea of Cortez (a giant bay) during summer as the water warms, and move back out as water cools in the fall. Not true off all the species, but true enough to plan your trip that way.
09-26-2002 08:24 AM
Adrian East cape is looking "muy interestante" amigos - especially with deals like that!

Could be very interested here!

We stayed in Cabo San Lucas (1998 ish) which was very nice for non-fishing wives - you could even drink the water. Beaches were unfishable from shore due to serious Dumper surf - we're talking something the size of a house rising out of nowhere about 30 feet of the shore and hitting the beach - something to do with no continental shelf on the Pacific side.
09-26-2002 07:32 AM

I am getting kind of excited about this. Probably not going to Alaska next year. This will fit my new schedule. Where would I fly into from the east coast? Do you think Southwest goes there?
09-25-2002 06:36 PM
Philster All prices listed are per person, double occupancy for the entire trip. The $500 one is the high end joint. Air conditioned, top flight american motel accomodations, with 150 tv channels via satellite. Even a nudie channel You can do it for half that easily. I'm doing five nights all inclusive, four days in the boat (take off from the beach in front of the hotel), and one night is in a suite (all they had) for $1,400 as a solo tripper. Group booking can be less For Late summer Dorado fest check Awesome lady, great site.

Three basic seasons. Talking about what's really hot. It doesn't mean the species not listed won't be there.

Spring: May/June Awesome inshore for jacks, roosters, sierra mackerel, grouper, cabrilla, etc. Some skipjack action. East Cape mostly. Storms can keep you off the water if you go too early

Late summer: July/August Dorado Dorado Dorado! Some yellowtail (DAMN TOUGH FIGHTER!), Inshore fish also. Around Loreto is best. Fished have moved north from the cape. Storms can be an issue. More from the perspective of messing up Dorado cover, but can push you off the water.

Fall: East Cape again. Dorado all sizes, but big solitary bulls around, gotta look for them, Yellowfin (football to VW size), Sails, Marlin if you like the whole tease thing. Wahoo a slim possibility. You would have to dedicate the whole trip and maybe not see one.
09-25-2002 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Philster
If you're serious, I'd be game! I know a gal who runs a great operation down there. Anything from high end resort (500 bucks from 3 days fishing and great room and board AND open bar all day long ) to $250 flea bag, and try not to eat anything for 3 days fishing.

Bajaclave anyone?
Dude, that sounds awesome. You mean it's $500 per person for 3 days for the fishing, the room and food? Or $500 per day? If it's the first I may even be able to afford it. Sounds like too good to be true somehow. Tell me it's not...
09-25-2002 04:37 PM
juro Philster -

$500? What's the best time of year? Pls tell us more!

I have been intrigued with Baja since Bob Veverka's article...
09-25-2002 04:34 PM
Philster If you're serious, I'd be game! I know a gal who runs a great operation down there. Anything from high end resort (500 bucks from 3 days fishing and great room and board AND open bar all day long ) to $250 flea bag, and try not to eat anything for 3 days fishing.

Bajaclave anyone?
09-25-2002 04:08 PM
Soudns good

Let's go! I that maybe you had been down there after I had put up that previous post, but left it there for you.
09-25-2002 03:44 PM
Philster "Haven't fought a fish for more than an hour? Keep fishing in the sea.
Wasn't it Randall Kaufman who said,"When setting the hook on a Tarpon, feel for the corner of it's mouth."? Who is he writing to there?"

Hey Eddie. Notice I said I haven't spent an hour on a Bluewater fish, no mention of tarpon :hehe: As I've also mentioned earlier, not that I would expect anyone to remember because, hey, why should it memorable, I prefer fish I can cast to. That means Dorado, yellowtail, yellowfin, sails, and small striped marlin.

I think Randall was referring to the now popular circle hook approach of not rushing the hookset, and trying to get a hinge hookup. Something trumpeted by steelhead gurus forever. Heck, Hugh Falkus of atlantic salmon fame advocated using a hook that wasn't super sharp so it wouldn't catch on hard bony parts of the mouth and would instead slide a bit and come to rest in the "scissor" of the mouth. That hardly compares to talking about needing to break a half dozen or so rods before you know how much pressure you can put on a fish...

Hey, it's only rock and roll...
09-25-2002 03:35 PM
Philster "But Philster, if you ever get a chance to fish for what you out there in teh west call dorado and what we here in the east call dolphin, you will see what I am talking about. Also my buddy got to go to Costa Rica last march for sails. It was, again, exactly the way as described in the book. "

If I had to count the number of Dorado I've caught, I'd have to count the number of Dorado I've caught That is the most prevalent "bluewater" fish in the sea of cortez in Baja where I go between late June through November. They are sometimes referred to as "rats" due to their numbers at certain times. Done the sail thing too. Both those fish are on the easy side of the bluewater spectrum. Well, to hook anyway. They are also both gorgeous and amazing fish.

Capt Gordon, if you ever want to really see what Dorado fishing is like, go to Loreto Mexico between mid July and mid August. There are days where you will have the captain turn the boat around long before you are scheduled to go in. Really... You can get about 5 days on the water for as low as $650 double occupancy, including room and board. And if you go, give me a call, I'll meet you and bring the flies
09-25-2002 08:25 AM
Eddie Bone Fishing is also a very good book. I am lucky, because my wife alows me to have two. Haven't fought a fish for more than an hour? Keep fishing in the sea.
Wasn't it Randall Kaufman who said,"When setting the hook on a Tarpon, feel for the corner of it's mouth."? Who is he writing to there?
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