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03-03-2002 06:42 PM
old man Around that Nam thing I think I was 4 f at that time. Damn near got killed at work. Got my head busted open at work. Now have hole in my head. I think that I should have had a plate put in it. When it happened I asked the Doc how big of hole I was going to have and he said about as big as a pencil end. Well he lied,it's about as big as a nickle. So I watch where I put my head so I don't ever hit myself on it. It happened in '65 I think. Jim S.
03-02-2002 08:02 PM
pmflyfisher Was there in 66 and 67, Cold War then got to do NAM support for next 3 years.

Hal
03-02-2002 05:58 PM
old man I don't think that you were very close to me there. I was there in '55 and'56. I don't think you were very old at that time. Jim :hehe:
03-02-2002 01:13 PM
pmflyfisher Jim,

I was close to you in Greenland, something else in common.

Specifically here,

http://www.keflavik.af.mil/85gp/index.htm


After spending a year there working avionics on fighter interceptors I now look back in retrospective as the beginning of my preparation for winter steelheading.

FYI, light snow storm in Chicago today 4-6 inches of new snow going to the teens tonight and 20s next few days.

Hal
03-02-2002 12:57 PM
old man Well this is one person you don't have to worry about stopping and fishing there. I've been there twice in the summer and I find it toooo hot for my liking. And as for winter you can keep it When I was much younger I spent a year in Greenland. It was over the winter mostly. So no thanks for being there any time soon. P.S. I was born in Sheboygan Wisc. Jim S.
03-02-2002 07:37 AM
pmflyfisher Watersprite,

Yes I fished the Flatbrook also some, but in NJ I grew up learning FF on the Saddle, Ramapo (NY & NJ), Stony Creek (NY), Upper Hackensack (NJ) rivers. In it was all of the Catskill region streams.

Growing up in Northern NJ most of my fishing was in New York state Catskills though I would say and the NJ shore salt water.

In Midwest last 23 years, fishing is much better here in the Great Lakes states has everything NJ has except salt water, plus all of the salmon, steelhead, trout you would ever want. Plus the bass and walleye fishing is very good. Plus this is the home of the King of Fish, Muskys. If you want big water lake fishing we have the biggest freshwater lakes (oceans) in the world right here.

So there is much better diverse fishing here in the upper mid west
plus it is 365 days a year for trout and salmon. Very few rivers are completely closed for trout fishing, and only few prime nursery stretches of wild steelhead rivers are closed during spawning season.

Fishing life is good here, I may not trade it for anywhere else in the U.S. right now.

Well maybe for Florida warm weather and flats fishing etc... Now ten degrees out and snowing here.

Hope that the east and west coast anglers keep flying over us and don't bother fishing here.

Hal
02-26-2002 10:23 PM
watersprite Well...I recall catching one big'un that was almost large enough to wear (i.e., open fish mouth and stick over your head). Seriously, you could almost wear it as a hat and I wear a size 7-1/4. And there were many bigger ones in that lake.

The only thing big enough around here to do that would be an occasional grizzly or a county commissioner.

Steven R
02-26-2002 09:20 PM
old man What do you call little bitty. There are some big bass here in Skagit Co. if you know where to go. As I don't fish for them but I read alot. As being as you so far up in the hills and need a guide to get out. Jim S.
02-26-2002 08:20 PM
watersprite I lived in Kearney, near Newark, form '70 - '76. Used to fish the Raritan in central part of the state and the Flat Brook (I think that was what it was called) a FF only spot up in the NW corner. Used to go out of state to Up State NY and Vermont when I wanted to go primative (ha, ha, ha - yea right, primative!).

Did the Hopatcong (sp?) and other lakes for the pickerel and bass. Oh, and of course the Jersey shore for the fluke and bluefish.

The differences between there and here is like different planets. I like it here MUCH better (less crowded and Big mountains). Sure miss the bass in the lilly pads though - a poor mans minature tarpon. Just can't find that out here, although we do have bass, they are little bitty'uns.

Steven R
02-25-2002 08:50 PM
pmflyfisher Oh well you both know more about these rivers then I do at least being in physical proximity to them. It was to good to be true that I ran into two expert Skagit/Sauk steelhead fly fisherman I suppose.

Watersprite I grew up in Northern NJ - Teaneck. Been gone since 1979.
02-25-2002 04:54 PM
old man I too am new at this type of winter fishing. I like to dry fly fish in the summer. I know of a few river and small streams that have fish in them at certain times and I try to hit them. But as for fishing the Skagit I have thrown hardware at them,but not the fly.
I'm from the great state of Wisconsin but when I was there it was several life times ago. Moved to Washington in '44. Jim S
02-25-2002 02:46 PM
watersprite PM...,

You almost cost me my 19" monitor. I was sipping a fresh cup of HOT coffee when I read your post, nearly choked with laughter and proceeded to spray my coffee all over the monitor. Hey, I am getting on in the years and I am experienced (after all this is the land of Hendrix), but a veteran steelheader-no way! My experience is very limited with regards to steelhead and the fly.

My FF has been trout and, a long time ago, bass popping in the lilly pads of New Jersey lakes. My former steelheading life was as a bait (and the crowd booed mightily while throwing mucho nasties at the bum) chucker. Always did the C&R though. And I quickly learned the lesson on release mortality using this technique.

No, I just recently signed up for the full tour as a fly wielding steelheader. I bought an old farm on the upper Skagit this past spring. My precious wife (see honey, I said it out loud) then went out and bought me a Sage spey outfit-what would any decent man do? Well I believe a good man will take the wife's hint and go fishin...
02-25-2002 01:55 PM
pmflyfisher
Skagit/Sauk

Watersprite,

We have a lot in common.

I just realized my cyber angling has finally found two (Old Man and Watersprite) real experienced Skagit/Sauk steelhead fly fisherman.

A trophy to be sure.

Gotta get out there, have the frequent flyer miles just got to get the right window of opportunity between business, family, the skagit/sauk run and the weather. Lots of variables isn't it.

I hear the April run and weather is more dependable than March right ?

Hal
02-25-2002 11:32 AM
watersprite I'm a big fan of the wallets for most all my sink type flies, saving the boxes for the drys. Sorry but the boxes give me the feeling of being a pack horse and are often uncomfortable.

Kid Watersprite
02-25-2002 10:05 AM
pmflyfisher John,

Thanks for the input. Since my fishing is now primarily great lakes steelhead and salmon, I use wets, streamers, nymphs, and egg type flies. No dry flies at all, they don't bite on those unfortunately here. Maybe a few summer run skamanias but that is a low probability to try.

My trout dry flies are now in two plastic boxes.

I just like the fly wallets for those categories mentioned above.

After 40 years hard to change.

BTW, LL Bean has a large neat looking large fly wallett. Started to think about pulling the trigger on that. Check it out in their online store.

Hal
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