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02-04-2014 11:24 PM
Green Ghost On Fly Lines:

I clean them daily if in Salt water use.
I replace them when dirty, cracked or not performing.
I do not seem to have a lot of memory from storage on the spool unless the fly line needs replacement.
It is possible to twist the line whilst coiling and storing it.
I do believe that routine cleaning helps the line last.


On leaders:

I usually keep the heavier butt section in tact and replace everything from there down religiously.
I replace all Tippet after every significant fish. (always on Atlantics).
Terminal Tackle Failure is unacceptable and the direct responsibility of the angler.
I try to Tie near perfect knots, if the wraps don't come together right I cut it off and re tie the Knot.

Sure, I use a lot of tippet, but I don't often lose a fish for a bad knot. (wish I could say it was never).

We have limited time to Fly fish, I like to get it as right as I can.

The Rest is Up to The Fish!
01-02-2014 07:54 AM
boatdrinks lines I don't use very often, I take off the reel and coil up like an extension cord (18" diameter circle or so) I then just hang them from a nail in the basement. Lines I use at least once a month I just keep on the reel and stretch out before using if I go a week or two.
01-14-2008 07:08 PM
Galong Thanks guys, it looks like I'll make some leaders myself and give it a try.
01-14-2008 12:08 PM
juro The blood knots in your hand-made leader butt, taper sections will never fail before your tippet knot unless you tie them so badly they defy simple physics i.e. big fat line knots are stronger than skinny tippet knots. Kind of hard to defy that but I guess it's possible. Furthermore the weakest point is usually the terminal knot (at the fly), and if you are still using a clinch definitely so.

So once you replace a tippet, it's safe to say that the hand made leader is no weaker than the one-piece at 10% of the price (if that).

It allows you to use only sparse portions of flourocarbon (e.g. tippet only) which is not the best thing for the environment or the wallet.

But much more importantly, tying your own leaders teaches you a tremendous amount and makes you a better angler over time. Leader design affects casting, presentation and handling of fish. It teaches you to recognize the feedback you might otherwise ignore or miss, make corrections and improve.

That, in my opinion, is what makes one angler better than another - the number of iterations one has improved their technique based on recognition of the available feedback.
01-14-2008 11:25 AM
teflon_jones
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Originally Posted by Galong
I've sort of stuck with store-bought tapered leaders. Perhaps I should try to make some of my own and see how they compare.
I've been using the factory tapered kind for almost 20 years. They're simple, easy, and work really well. They can be a little pricey, but luckily for me I picked up a 10 year supply for 75% off at an Orvis store that was going out of business.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galong
I'm a bit concerned about having two or three knots in a home-made leader. Knots are the weakest point aren't they?
Yes, normally they are. However, I've had very few cases of my admittedly poor knots breaking. I don't even use the correct types of knots and they hold. I tie 2 improved clinch knots back to back when I attach tippet and they hold just fine, even in 7X tippet.
01-13-2008 05:56 PM
Warren
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Originally Posted by juro
The proper way to straighten a leader is without contest, a very large fish.


I guess that puts this topic to rest
01-13-2008 08:20 AM
juro The proper way to straighten a leader is without contest, a very large fish.

01-13-2008 04:14 AM
Galong I've sort of stuck with store-bought tapered leaders. Perhaps I should try to make some of my own and see how they compare.

I'm a bit concerned about having two or three knots in a home-made leader. Knots are the weakest point aren't they?

Thanks,
Dave
01-12-2008 10:16 PM
teflon_jones I've never used a leader straightener, but I've also thrown out a few leaders that may have been saved if I did. I use really light leaders (7x usually, or 5x at the heaviest) and they tend to have much less memory through most of them than heavier leaders. I'm also primarily a streamer fisherman so the drag of the streamer straightens out any curls in the leader pretty easily.

Then again, I used to fish primarily with dry flies and I never used a leader straightener then either. I found that pulling it through my fingers really tightly would straighten out a lot of curls, or at least make them straight enough to fish with it.

On a side note, does anybody know if flourocarbon or mono leaders have more memory? What about furled?
01-12-2008 11:21 AM
Warren
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Originally Posted by Galong
Thanks Warren, have you ever heard of pulling the leader through a piece of rubber, such as a cut-out from an inner tube? Do you think the finger method would be just as good?

Thanks,
Dave
Dave I have heard of that, and they actually sell things here called leader straighteners, rubber and leather flap thingy. Lefty Kreh claims they damage the leader. Dunno if that is true or not.

Also when I use my fingers I can feel any bad spots that could cause a failure in service. probably the best reason to use the old fingers
01-12-2008 08:03 AM
Galong Thanks Dan,

I probably remember hearing about this rubber method from a zillion years ago... when I was young. I'm just getting back into flyfishing and loving every minute of it.

I reckon my next step is to give the fingers a try.

Cheers,
Dave
01-12-2008 07:40 AM
Redfisher Galong

Pulling a leader through a piece of inner tube has been a prescribed method for staightening a leader since as far back as I can remember and I've been fly fishing for about 56 years. It usually works but you have to pull hard enough to stretch the leader material and generate some heat. As Warren pointed out I believe heat is a major factor in the straightening process. If it doesn't work it probably means the leader material has "dried out" and should be replaced.

Hope this helps!
Dan

P.S. If anyone has a better way please chime in. Your never too old to learn!!!
01-12-2008 05:46 AM
Galong Thanks Warren, have you ever heard of pulling the leader through a piece of rubber, such as a cut-out from an inner tube? Do you think the finger method would be just as good?

Thanks,
Dave
01-12-2008 04:55 AM
Warren I usually leave the line on the spool. if for some reason I have it off I just store it in a loop tied with pipe cleaners to keep everything from tangling up and I label them and put in a plastic sandwich bag.

I have the best luck pulling a leader through my fingers a few times, press hard enough to generate a little heat and the leader will usually straighten out nicely.
01-12-2008 01:17 AM
Galong Thanks Scott,

As usual, a quick and helpful reply.
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