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02-17-2001 11:44 PM
juro
RE:Favorite striper hook

I haven't yet seen these new hooks w/ point more in line with the eye, but I am familiar with the Gamakatsu SC-15 wide gape nickel plated which have that profile. These have been around for at least a year if not two. They are popular for tying flies where the material flares off the dorsal side of the fly instead of being in-line. I've also used them for epoxy headed sand eels occasionally as well.

Curious to know if the new hooks mentioned are a similar profile as the SC-15 Gami?
02-15-2001 10:09 PM
labrax
RE:Favorite striper hook

Saltydog,

Thank you. I'll check in and see if they arrived on the weekend - if their not in then I'll wait for the following weekend.

Have a good night,

Pete
02-15-2001 07:53 PM
saltydog
RE:Favorite striper hook

LABRAX Ill have 4-6 this comming week. Had to get them from another source, for some reason everyone is dropping them, just like Sci-Angler, monocore clear(slime line)is no longer being sold! BUT Im getting them from E.C. DIRECT. "GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN"
02-15-2001 06:55 PM
tomd
RE:Favorite striper hook

Adrian, I've been warned to stay away from circle hooks for any fly that is not swallowed(like crab flies), because they tend to slide right out of the fish's mouth. they were developed for bait fishing, so that when the fish takes off, the hook will slide up out of the gut and anchor in the corner of the fish's mouth. I wouldn't want you to miss any fish on a trip like that!!! Tom D
02-15-2001 04:35 PM
grego
RE:Favorite striper hook

Pete,

Stop looking for smaller 254SS! just visited Eagle Claw's wibe-site, smallest is #2. See:

<a href="http://www.eagleclaw.com/Pages/hooks10d.html" target="_blank"><!--auto-->http://www.eagleclaw.com/Pages/hooks10d.html</a><!--auto-->
02-15-2001 12:59 PM
Adrian
RE:Favorite striper hook

I really like the Gamakatsu Trey Combs hooks - real sharp, real strong, real expensive, but, generally, I think you get what you pay for. The Japanese really do know how to produce high quality steel!

I picked up some Owner circle hooks the other day which I plan to use on big streamers for Trevally in the upcoming Christmas Island trip. May try some small ones for bonefish flies. It's the ideal environment to experiment!
02-15-2001 09:13 AM
marvin
RE:Favorite striper hook

Bear's Den in Taunton had the 254SS in 4s and up on Tuesday.......
02-14-2001 08:29 PM
labrax
RE:Favorite striper hook

I LOVE the Eagle Claw 254SS - Rich in Marlboro carries them in the bigger sizes, however, I am very interested in getting them in some smaller sizes (2,4 even 6). Does anyone know of a source for these smaller sizes? They do not have a very reflective surface, are relatively sharp (although not as sharp out of the package as the Tiemcos), have a large eye, and seem light. The shank is short and the gape relatively large - comparible to the Tiemcos.

I was looking for 6's and 4's this weekend - and a comparison of the Tiemcos (811's)and the Mustads (34007) in both sizes left me with the impression that a size 4 Tiemco is like a size 2 Mustad. Kind of made me wonder when you look at a hook recipe if they take that into account.

Would love to hear if anyone knows of a supplier of the Eagle Claw 254SS in the smaller sizes.

Thanks,

Pete
02-14-2001 07:46 PM
JimW
RE:Favorite striper hook

I like the Eagle claw 254SS, the short shank doesn't foul as easily and it is a strong hook. For small flies I like the Daiichi 2456 in a #2 or #4 these things are super sharp.
02-13-2001 10:25 AM
striblue
RE:Favorite striper hook

Having just started tying flies, I don't have the foggiest . But I know the manufacturer is Mustad or Eagle claw.. 3,2,1 1/0,2/0, 3/0 and 4/0.
02-13-2001 08:44 AM
tomd
RE:Favorite striper hook

I like those new Vivaris 940 very short shank, and a very wide gap. almost like a modified circle hook. great for small hi-ties.otherwise I'd agree with Fishhawk, and go for the Eagle Claw 254ss, 253s. I don't use many long shank, so I just go for the 34011 mustads. Tom d
02-13-2001 05:31 AM
FishHawk
RE:Favorite striper hook

I use Mustad 34007 and Eagle Claw 254SS and have not had a problem with either hook. Both hooks sharpen well. FishHawk
02-12-2001 10:45 PM
FrenchCreek
RE:Favorite striper hook

I don't get a lot of SW hooks up here in Prairie Land. I mostly use Gamakatsu Swash Eye 2/0, 3/0 and occasionally 4/0 for my pike flies. Mostly because of the needle point and extreme sharpness.
Any thougths about using these for SW?
They cost me about $0.50Cdn each,about $0.35US
What is the price range when you folks say a hook is expensive? by comparison to what other type hooks?
Has anyone thought of creating a sort of hook comparison chart with price/quality/sharpness/durability etc?

I plan to tie a fury (or flurry)of SW flies for my upcoming trip so keep the thread going. I'm learning lots...
02-12-2001 08:03 PM
FredA
RE:Favorite striper hook

Until I develop some fly tying competence I,m using the Mustad 3407's and 34007's.

Until I develop some hook setting competence (generally fish catch me) I think I'll lean toward the carbon steel 3407's (take and hold a sharper edge/point).

Fred A.
02-12-2001 04:38 PM
RayStachelek
RE:Favorite striper hook

Hook and fly failure with hour shaped eyes are quite common. If your hour shape eyes are cast metal, many time a fish can snap it off by twisting it against their jaw cartilage during the fight.

If your hour shaped eyes are machined, the metal is much stronger. In this case, torque is apply to the bend of the hook causing that to fail.

These new shorter hooks like the Varivas and Tiemco 600 SP are going to be great for flies that are tied mainly on the top portion of the sank. The success flies tied with unfair advantage material come to mind.
With larger profile type of flies, like you said Juro, you won't have to counterbalance your design. Of course there will be added weight with these new hooks. Flies will have a keel effect and you won't have to apply lead as much any more to stabilize them.
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