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03-06-2008 09:15 PM
Penguin
Welcome to the...

Blue Light Special Acrylic Club...and...Angler Management Anonymous...
John...
Remember what that insightful guy had to say in "The Graduate"?
PLASTICS!!!
Anyway...
This stuff really SUCKS!
By the way...did I tell you that they were going on sale tomorrow for only $45. with the VIP coupon?!
(just kidding!!!)
You know what "they" say about teaching an olde dog new tricks...
Give it a fair chance and I think you'll have NO REGRETZ
03-06-2008 08:35 PM
striblue Well, I just ordered the stuff from Bears Den... two sets are avalable... I got the set with the bigger "jelly" applicator... I'll see what happens as I experiment. I guess you need eye protectors when applying the stuff. Atleast that's what's in the instructions I read on the Bear's Den web site. ....about $90.00. Once you have the light , which appears to be the lion's share of the expense, the refills are reasonable.
03-06-2008 08:29 PM
Penguin
Blue Light Special...

The "core" is thicker and has a sluggish to no flow profile...it pretty much stays put...
The "finish" is not as thin as fresh epoxy but does flow slowly...and will drip and run if left to it's own devices...easy to get on as a thin finish coat then blast with the stop the action Blue Light Special on isle six!
Several thin coats works best since a flash of the light sets the cure in a few seconds...30 seconds and the brownies are done for sure!
NO odor and, with a little practice, it's easy to get a handle on this interesting alternative...

The photo shows a deceiving yellow cast that was probably due to the temperature of the artificial light and some reflection from the body braid on the hook shank...
The background was actually a light grey...so there is a good deal of colour shift going on...the other shots were all taken "outside" in the presence of the Great Orb!
The flye is actually much clearer and only slightly yellow to the eye under normal light...it was a "dusting of pearl sparkle" experiment...along the "learning curve"...
Definitely no pig urine and/or toxic explosive going on here in das bunker!
I'm already partial to a clear body with tinsel lateral lines and pearl body braid to insinuate a phishy profile and anatomy...
03-06-2008 08:24 PM
Adrian I guess this acrylic stuff is o.k. if dentists shove it in your "gob" when doing "core buildups" for crowns. Certainly safer than Toluene which rots brain cells faster than I get through gin.

Talking of dangerous stuff, one of the older dyes beloved of Irish fly tyers during the Mayfly hatch was Picric Acid.

Extremely toxic and highly EXPLOSIVE too But it did produce a gorgeous shade of yellow. The alternative was pigs urine
03-06-2008 06:31 PM
striblue Pete, you might have already covered this...and I do want to try it ... does it run at all... by that I mean that when appling to say, sandeel heads , do you need to rotate the vise at first to get an even application??? Like the first coat of epoxy.... Do you need to apply the light quickly or the stuff drips off? Thanks
03-06-2008 02:55 PM
Penguin
03-03-2008 08:55 PM
Penguin
Owner...

5/0 Rig'N Hook (#5137-151)

Make that...Slightly handicapped, moderately decorated, Air Force puke...Thankyou!
03-03-2008 07:42 PM
vtloon
Herring Fly

Great looking fly (especially for an Air Force puke). What type & size hook did you use?
03-03-2008 04:52 PM
Penguin
PharSideBigEyez...Herring Insinuation...Acrylic vs Epoxy...

Acrylic was wicked easy vs epoxy and quite user phriendly...
NO "issues", odor or hydrocarbon free radicals to rain on my tying parade!

03-03-2008 02:21 PM
Guernseybass
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimS

On some commercial patterns I've noticed over the years, a clear adhesive is used under and for attachment of large 3-D eyes I don't think it is exoxy or wrap coating for rodmaking. Anyone know what it might be?
At the Bearsden show I noticed two guys using pen sized battery powered cauterisers to make holes in the heads of flies which they filled with zap a gap before pushing in the eyes.


Mark.
03-02-2008 09:50 AM
Paxton About a month ago I used the concoction of toluene and goop...one part toluene and 3 parts goop.....nice, clear easy working material.....will never use it again. Even using in in the garage with all doors open...the smell gave me a headache and a sickening feeling in my stomach......to me....catching fish with a nice fly is not worth death or at the least damage. Also, I'm not sure that the fish would be as appreciative of the coating as I was. They are just going to have to eat my regular flies from now on.
Ron
03-01-2008 07:59 PM
vtloon
Tufflye

Although applying it takes some getting used to, I like the stuff. You can use it in many ways: a full body, jumbo head cement; outer shell for a hollow fly effect; you can press a thumb into some styrofoam for an instant crab/MOE body mold..just hold the hook while you zap it with the light; lots of possibilities. The thing I like most about it is the near- instant feedback loop: when you screw up, you know it right away and move on.
03-01-2008 10:57 AM
Penguin
Better Living Through Chemistry...

The Tuffleye Acrylic jelly doesn't seem to have the volatile properties associated with Toluene...
It's contained, applied, and cured...all quickly and efficiently...I have not noticed any chemical warfare issues going on and I enjoy the process...
There is a post-cure residual surface tackyness that can be defeated with an alcohol swab rub down and an application of hard-as-nails to seal the issue...
...and besides all that...
IT'S FUN and I LIKE IT!

As far as Toluene is concerned...
It's sort'a like having your very own fly tyin' meth lab...NO WORRIES! (...NOT!)
03-01-2008 10:22 AM
striblue Pete, I agree that I would not use touline and there has been countless discusions on that stuff over the years. As far as yellowing flies, I don't think it matters at all unless you want them for display. My recollection is that you try to quicken yellowing by placing flies on your dashboard. Again...can you tell me if there is any toxic effect or odor from the new stuff. Seems too expensive for the benefits. I am a slow tYer anyway.
03-01-2008 09:37 AM
Penguin
Drain Bammage...

For some informative reading...
GOOGLE... "Toluene CAS#108-88-3"

Emergency Overview
-------------------Toluene--------------------------
POISON! DANGER! HARMFUL OR FATAL IF SWALLOWED. HARMFUL IF INHALED OR ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN. VAPOR HARMFUL. FLAMMABLE LIQUID AND VAPOR. MAY AFFECT LIVER, KIDNEYS, BLOOD SYSTEM, OR CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT.

But...it's not really that bad once you build up some tolerance...

...Since my minor exposure, I have developed a curious third nostrel...
but, the good news, it's on the back of my head...sort'a like a snokel...
'makes for more convenient breathing with my face burried in a bowl of Cheerios!

A few drops of magic "T" mixed into some Aqua-seal, or Goop, (both of which contain, you guessed it, toluene) thins it out and promotes a very rapid cure while emitting an inordinate amount of unquestionably poisonous fumeage that would turn away even the likes of Timothy Leary, Keith Richards, and Guissepe Monsanto...
Enjoy the "trip"!
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