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02-24-2006 01:43 PM
fairmountdan ...put all that stuff into a backpack for clarification ...(quite a load)
02-24-2006 01:32 PM
fairmountdan I probably would be hiking no more than 2-4 miles per day. Some of it would be over fairly difficult terrain but not much. Years ago, I used to put my waders, fishing gear, food, water etc. and hike up to mountain lakes in Colorado but it was exhausting and I was a fairly young man, I'm not interested in any real long treks.

I just got the impression that wading boots are fairly fragile....they certainly look fragile to me...have read that they are not that easy to replace the felt soles, I thought it might not be a bad idea to save them for fishing situations. It appears that you think otherwise.

I appreciate your time, advice, and perspective in responding to my post.

With everything you say that matches my suspicions, , I'm not sure either that you get 1and half to 2x the value for the corresponding cost by going to a top of the line Simms wader as opposed to a mid priced LLBean or Orvis product. I am considering the Simms L2 which is their midpriced wader, btw.

Thanks again for your advice, Teflon.

02-24-2006 12:35 PM
teflon_jones I'm very happy with my Orvis Silver Label waders. They've done everything I've asked of them. Everybody has their opinion as you said. Simms has a group of die hard fans, but for how much they cost, I hope to god they perform well! To me it's like asking whether a top end rod is worth the money. Sure, it may perform slightly better than the rod available for half the price, but is it going to perform twice as good? I don't think you can go wrong with mid-priced Orvis or LL Bean products, and the customer service can't be beat.

As for your question about wearing hiking boots instead of the wading boots, why? How long a hike are you talking about? I've worn my wading boots for hikes approaching several miles on some pretty difficult terrain and they've done fine and I haven't done any damage to them. I don't see any problem with wearing hiking boots instead and changing before you wade, but I don't really see the point unless you're hiking a long way, and then I wouldn't be wearing the waders until I got to the water anyway. The last thing you want to do is tear a $200 pair of waders while you're hiking through the woods.
02-24-2006 10:45 AM
Sean Juan I'm a big fan of LL Bean waders - and their customer service couldn't be better. I called there Fly fish hotline once to get some advice about how best to fix a slow leak in a pair of waders I had had for 7 years - they said just send them to us and within a week I had a new pair.

Customer service that makes the customer feel guilty.

On the whole I'd say that money spent to increase your comfort and allows you to fish days you other wise wouldn't is money well spent.
02-23-2006 03:31 PM
fairmountdan Thanks, Mark. Interesting comment about Hodgeman. Back in the 60's 70's and early 80's their canvas bootfoots were durable, comfortable, and favored where I used to fly fish. Companies change I guess.

Yes, it does seem that folks have their brand loyalties no matter what hobby is discussed and your advice to take some of this with a grain of salt is well taken. Will look into the Orvis per your suggestion.

02-23-2006 03:09 PM
Dble Haul Yes, I meant Simms waders....brain cramp near the end of the week.

I've also owned LLBean, Hodgeman, and Orvis waders. LLBean and Orvis also have great warranties for their products, but I am one of many people who will tell you to stay away from Hodgeman. Too many bad experiences with the products and service.

I love my Orvis breathables in the Guideweight style. Low maintenance, comfortable, and less expensive than Simms.

But take this all with a grain of salt; as you probably know, everyone has an opinion regarding certain pieces of equipment, and waders fall into that category.
02-23-2006 03:02 PM
fairmountdan No doubt fun is what it's really all about.

Guessing that you meant Simms
Waders. They sure do have their fans. But it does look like there are other companies out there..LLBean...Albright.... that might be worth looking at and was hoping that someone who has been able to compare Simms to these companies that also seem to have breathable/Goretex products might be able to tell me what they think. BTW, I still haven't ruled out the Simms waders, though.

02-23-2006 01:44 PM
Dble Haul Sage waders are worth the money because they won't necessarily wear out in 4 or 5 years. If you take care of them they will last much longer than that. And in case you do have a problem with them, the money is also well spent because of the warranty that comes with them.

I can't help you out with the rivers that you're asking about, but welcome back to the sport. Have fun.
02-23-2006 12:21 PM
Getting restarted

I quit in the middle 80's for a variety of reasons:

crowds too large in Missouri's state parks
not enough time because of work and family
other interests

Well since I'm retiring in June and the need to spend time with family is not as great, I've been getting the bug to take up fly-fishing for trout again.

I've bought an upgraded rod/reel combo from what I have still sitting in the closet. FWIW, I bought a SAGE Launch with a Ross reel and SA fly line. I'm happy with the choice but one thing that's hit me is that the price of everything has gone up dramatically over the years.

Can someone give advice on waders of the stocking foot variety? I am not that cheap and am considering Simms products (L2) but is it really worth spending that much on something that's going to wear out in 4 or 5 years? Also, is it possible to put some type of hiking boot over the neoprene stockings to hike to your destination? I'd like to save the felt boots for actually fishing the water.

Also, if anyone has info on fishing these rivers in Missouri: Meramec, Current, and North Fork...I'm all ears. I'm not above occasionally fishing the trout parks but am interested in a bit more solitude.



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