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12-02-2004 07:36 AM
grizz0707
airfare

just received a coupon from NW Airlines and these rates apply to the NE corridor
$188 if we leave on tues or wed and 208 other days with a saturday stayover.
Reservations must be made by 12/31/2004. I will give everyone the number to call when the dates are made or if anyone else finds a better fare let us know.
fish we must,
grizz
11-27-2004 01:45 PM
juro See other thread...
11-27-2004 07:23 AM
bonefishmon Whoops! Sorry Juro. Spoken was meant to be 'responded'. Spent some time doing housing searches and came up ditto for our price range in the Acklins-Crookeds. Not much there and what is available is very pricey. Have you found anything there? Cherokee Sound on Abaco is another option.

Phil
11-26-2004 07:32 AM
juro

Actually, I have not spoken at all, other than to keep the field of view wide enough to avoid tunnel vision. I agree the deadline for deciding on the location coming up quickly, but am not prone to jump to conclusions before all the legwork is done.

Based on others posts and out of consideration for bandwidth, I started a new thread as requested (each time a big thread is read it loads the whole thing including the images I put in there).

Things seem to be reaching a more thought-out approach as time passes, IMHO. Keep the ideas coming they are great!
11-26-2004 07:26 AM
bonefishmon This thread continues....in the Bonefishing Forums. Juro has spoken!!!

Phil
11-25-2004 11:37 PM
Henry
Hi gang,

Just to throw a wrench into your gears...the more popular the DIY destination of choice...the more likely it is that prime rentals will be already booked (or going fast) during the prime months of March, April and May. Perhaps you should start making availability inquiries for some of your possible destinations. The availability or non-availability of rentals may be a determining factor of where you'll go.

I leave for the Yucatan for a two week boneanza this Sunday...trip report when I get back. Gonna give my "Ultimate Shrimp" patterns a workout.

Later,
11-25-2004 09:17 PM
juro Jim -

You're IN! Glad to hear it too, a fellow Monomoy flats rat is always welcome on a bonefish trip in my book. The similarities are amazing, in fact I would have to say that each has helped the other dramatically for me over the years even though this will only be my 10th bonefish trip which can't compare to the days on Monomoy.

Long Island is not a sure thing yet, the flats in the Deadman's Cay area require a boat to access and the jury is out on the DIY friendliness. We should not rule out Eleuthera for a huge range of options from end to end, lodging options are excellent and DIY friendliness tops. If we can manage a workable Acklins tour that would be the ultimate for fishing the 1,000 square miles of bonefish flats whose shoreward edges are accessible without a boat, not to mention that both Acklins and Crooked are largely unexplored bonefish habitat like Columbus would have seen.

We have been mulling over some very good options, and we need to nail down the destination in December but let's leave the options open for a little longer until we can process the information overload.

Welcome to team bonefish!
11-25-2004 06:32 PM
bonefishmon I have learned from others that flats fish the Bahamas frequently say to look for the tides following both the new and full moon periods. For instance, the neap tides tend to be slower and offer more favorable water depths. They do not however sweep the large quanties of food off the flats that the bigger tides tend to do. So, in theory, the two to three days after the new and full moon tides tend to be less exagerated yet flow faster than a neap tide thus moving more shrimp and worms off the flats. For the wading angler this is critical for finding tailing fish late afternoon and morning when the sun is not high enough to sight fish or it's too cloudy. Bad tide timing can cause problems for the wading angler. Boats can cover the movement of the tides and provide an advantage. A dead low at dawn at the start of the fishing week has always been my goal a few days after the big tides.It's time to pack the gear for some broodstock salmon fishing tomorrow.

Phil
11-25-2004 05:21 PM
Smcdermott Simms,

I would be careful about picking the spring tides in some locations. I found that on the big tides during my trip the fish would go so far back into the mangroves that you could only find them exiting on the drop. Just something to think about.

Sean
11-25-2004 02:12 PM
jimS
Is there Room?

Juro, I have been reading this thread and have wanted to get involved, but have had reservations because I still have one boy in college and spend so much time on the Cape. I finally asked the boss, and she said ok, as long as the foreseeable oblications are funded. Well, I think I can do that, and since I have never been to the Bahamas, I need to go.

Based on the text, it sounds like Long Island (south) is the location in March. Now, if there is an opening, it is a matter of setting the date, specific location, and logistics.

Have you considered tides for the date. I would think that new or full moon tides with approproiate times for daylight fishing would drive the decision on dates.

Simms
11-25-2004 07:47 AM
bonefishmon Go to keyword AUTEC to find thier site. Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Center. Owned by Rathyeon. Located two miles south of opening to Fresh Creek, North Andros.

Happy Thanksgiving fellow forum members!

Phil
11-25-2004 01:41 AM
Luv2flyfish Dave..........I agree with you 110%!!! Once in a lifetime trip (potentially) and I am IN.

Phil..........you mention Navy. If there is a U.S. Military Installation near by our final destination......I can save us some scratch on boats. Military always has an Outdoor Recreation service. With me being Military.......I can get boats (if they have them) for pretty much dirt cheap. GUARANTEED cheaper than anywhere else for Non-Military. That'll take a little more coordination on my end, but if we decide thats where we are going, and military is near by.......I'll hook us up!

Also, if any of these places we are looking at staying has a Military Discount....I can get that too. A penny saved is a Penny earned.
11-25-2004 12:44 AM
Dave17 Juro,

To answer your three questions:

1. Any price (within reason) I'm not going to let a couple of hundred deter me from the clave of a lifetime. (Swipe now pay later).

2. Bones, Bones, Bones on the fly!!!

3. This has the priority with me for vaca. time. I can't do May but that shouldn't be a problem.

It doesn't matter the numbers, I am 100% in!!

I agree with bonefishmon we need to start a new thread......
11-24-2004 03:56 PM
bonefishmon Juro. I think it's time to start a new signup thread! This one got our attention and now it's time to start the ball rolling. Anyway, I'm in and can afford $1000+. Week of March 23-30 is out due to wedding anniversary. As far as location goes I personally like a larger area such as Long Island. Less chance of cold fronts to ruin the fishing experience due to it's southern location. If this trip gets popular we are going to need lots of space to roam! Steve Vletas has contacts for housing and says there is no question= Deadmas Cay for DIY fishing, period. Spouses will love Cape Santa Maria or Stella Maris Resort on the northern tip for the next visit. Lots of nice flats up there too but not as big. Or $130 a night in a cottage w/ breakfast and dinner at Chez Pierre. Check it out on www.bahamasflyfishingguide.com Juro, I did ask Steve for sponsorship so I could mention his site and book.

Phil
11-24-2004 03:25 PM
bonefishmon Juro is right as far as doing it dirt cheap when the flights are reasonable. I've tried to keep two trips under $750 but fell prey to eating out and the nickle and dime stuff always piles up fast. Lots of little stuff that goes overseen like arrival fees both ways, taxis, tips, and the usual gifts to bring home. Can't go home without supporting some of the natives in the form of necklaces and baskets!!! They were a big hit back home and made everyone that missed me very happy. My son has been wearing an Andros necklace like a rope bracelet! Won't take it off! Paid one guy $100 to drive me all over North Andros. Best 100 bucks I ever spent and he dove for fresh conch for lunch! He's building a small hotel and resturant and I stay for free when it's done. Last time I went back to Andros I bought ten junior size basketballs and nylon rope b ball nets for the kids in three school systems. They were playing round ball with volley balls on the privious visit with no nets on the rims. Kids were
estatic last I heard. These people are very kind hearted so I give in return. I never had a problem DIY with the guides and never saw one when I was fishing. They usually think you work at the local Naval Base (AUTEC) and leave you alone anyway!
Several of the Base guys have flats boats. I visited the base with a teacher I met at Hank's Place and she gave me a tour. She took me to her house and sat me in a chair near a small oceanside mangrove creek. The small bones arrived first on the incoming and then the 10 lbers. showed. She ran to the house and got some bread for the monsters that showed up after the ten pounders! One of um had to be 16-17 lbs. and swam right up to us for bread!!!!!!!! Came back the next day with a ten weight and got skunked. How do you tie a bread fly?!!!!!! I can go on and on and on! Suffice to say there's more to the Bahamas than the fishing. Oh, by the way! I learned in a hurry that things must slow down when you get there or it makes them nervous! Go slow. Accept whatever life brings on. I'm a changed man. How did I get my handle? It's music to my ears! Bonefishmon! 12 O'clock and coming fast! Cast now mon! Short stripes LONG stripes you're on!!!!!!!


Phil
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