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07-14-2004 06:47 AM
JR SPEY Yep. They fixed the bridge last year. It created quite a problem for the lodges south of the bridge and for the small village of Punta Allen. My understanding is that they completely rebuilt it, which it surely needed, but I believe that is the only land access to Punta Allen and the construction took awhile.
07-13-2004 06:38 PM
carlpasha
Boca Paila.

Hi all, I took a weekend away from a two week package in Cancun and drove to Boca Paila (4 years ago). There's a military/anti-narcotraficante post that'll look your car over and flirt with your wife or girlfriend. Later you come to the Boca Paila fishing lodge on the left where a friendly guide of theirs told me to drive as far as the bridge which one crosses to travel further to Punta Allen, park there and walk back along the road until I came to where the lagoon meets the road and just climb on in. One wades to the left, following the edge of the mangroves for about 15 minutes and then crosses a deeper channel and onto a large expanse of flats. NOBODY can see or hear you; which was a bit worrying as the evening before I went fishing I was standing on the bridge looking up into the outgoing flow and saw a large crocodile/alligator swimming across the outflow ! As I was climbing in the next day I met an American guide (Rodman Hunter) based in Cancun who told me "there's too much fish in the water for a croc to be interested in yuh" ! By the way... as, or before, you step in, do check the water for bonefish as I made my first cast from the other side of the road because there was a small pod of bones three feet from the edge !
Hope this "snapshot" is of use to you all. Also could someone tell me if they've replaced all the missing planks on the bridge, as it was just too scary to cross to get to Punta Allen.
06-23-2004 12:26 PM
Jabulani_Jonny Hello all,

I'm headed down on July 6th and basically doing the same thing. I'm a guide at Callaway Gardens and can't afford to spring for a guide while I'm down. So I'll be doing the DIY thing.

We'll be staying in the Akumal area for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot about Punta Allen, but I think I'm going to try the flats close to the Boca Paila bridge and any other flats I see along the way. I've heard good reports about the bridge area.

Who is Frank (referred to in an earlier post) and can he send the aforementioned "info"? I'd greatly appreciate any other help.
05-10-2004 09:08 PM
Pat Bahan Thanks,
I'll probably spring the $22. for a week license just to play it safe.
The bad news is that I called Wilderness Adventures to find out what had happened to the Reynal book. Apparently production has been delayed until July.
05-10-2004 02:57 PM
North Island The tour guide ,working for a co. doing snorkling tours, shouted to me that there was no fishing in the bay. My response was "Not according to the info from the Mexican consolate in Canada." At which point he muttered something and walked away.

I think he was worried I was going to kill a bunch of fish. Which could impact his buisiness. No con just a misunderstanding.

N I
05-10-2004 08:17 AM
Henry
Hi Pat,

In Mexico, a fishing license is indeed needed for all inland waters. On all coastal waters, no license is needed for (shorebound/on-foot) anglers with the exception being when fishing in special wildlife sanctuaries and/or preserves and/or when fishing from a boat... ie) Sian Ka'an Biosphere. I've fished the area around Boca Paila on a DIY basis a number of times and have never been challenged to produce a license...I suppose my number will come up eventually.

Regards,

Henry
05-09-2004 09:21 PM
Pat Bahan North Island,
Glad you had some success. Now I am confused about the license thing. I thought that was national.?.
Im curious what the tour guide had to say. Was he trying to pull a con?
05-09-2004 05:37 PM
North Island I was in that area early April. N1gdo sent me a ton of info on the south coast. I did get a chance to check out Punta Solimon. Very fishy. No guides. no licence, no worries.

Except for one tour guide that gave me a hard time as I waded out, everything was good. He was easily dispatched once he was made aware of the facts. There's alway one in every crowd.

Thanks to Frank I caught some fish on my trip.

N I
05-08-2004 08:55 PM
Pat Bahan I'm headed for Cancun on May 30th. I've ordered a copy of Reynal's "Fly Fishing Mexico-The Yucatan Peninsula", (which Chuck is dragging his feet getting to me). I'm hoping it will shed some light on the situation. I took our high school graduates down there last year but didn't learn much that trip. Since I er.. aah.. HAD to take them out on a deep sea charter I consoled myself with large quantities of dolphin for supper. :hehe: :hehe: We have a charter scheduled again and I purchased 12 wt 4pc temple fork so I wouldn't have to try to drag my 2pc rods through customs etc. :hehe: Anyway, I digress... I know there are bones up and down the coast. I know there are bones in the lagoon at Cancun but you cannot fish them without a guide. I know the lagoon at Xel'ha is lousy with bones because I've dived there and seen them. (In case you don't know about Xel'ha it's a marine park/sanctuary, don't even think about it.) If I weren't stuck in Cancun with the children I'd stay at Isla Mujares or one of the towns down the coast where it would be easier to branch out on my own. Lets hope Reynal's book helps.
04-21-2004 04:25 PM
Tailingnot
coincidentally....

Am going that way next month to do some diving and am hoping to locate some fishing. The dive shop and the hotel naturally offer guided fishing, to which I am inclined to say "whatever".

Experience has not been good with that sort of thing.

But in any case, I am taking tackle with me, and am hopeful any of you who have personal experience with the area will be willing to share it.

regards
03-26-2004 09:23 PM
nevada caster We were in the
bay that straddles the border with Belize, and the capital or main town of the state"Quinton Roo?" was on the west side. Sorry that I don't have a map. I have read that they have now establish a guide service out of that town.

My understanding is that some of the roads have now been improved. They were terrible then.

Re wind...the best time not to get wind is July and August and the further you get away from that, the more likely that you will have bad weather. I have a well-traveled friend that will not go to the Carrabean until May, and preferably late May. I was in Ambergris Is, Belize lin early May last year and had a lot of wind. However, the weather was ideal earlier in April around Easter. I'm going back to Ambergris this May but mid-month
03-24-2004 06:45 AM
slipangle Thanks Nevada caster,

Ahhh...northern Nevada. Makin me homesick now.
If you drove south out of Paradise Lodge, you must've been headed to the next big bay, not Espiritu Santu. Is it called Mahajul? Something like that. Close to Belize.

You're not the first person who has mentioned wind in April. Whew boy. I'm praying we didn't choose the absolute wrong time for going there. Not just the fishing; don't want to spoil my wife's visit either.

That doesn't bode well that the Lodge seemed to need to drive you 2 hours south of their place just to do some bonefishing! And then 30 minutes in a boat. I was kinda hoping there would be some fishable water very close by, but perhaps not.

Thanks again,

Slip
03-23-2004 09:48 PM
nevada caster
Paradise lodge

I went to Paradise Lodge in April 3 or 4 years ago. Unfortunately, we got blown out---20 to 30 knot wind every day. We did fish in the numerous lagoons for tarpon, but I believe that Paradise Lodge has a lease on these. The few times we tried to bonefish, we drove about 2 hours south (at 5 mph due to the road conditions) then went by boat for 20 to 30 minutes. We were on the eastern side of the big bay (Espiritu Santos?), with numerous islands, and flats. Saw lots of bones, a few tarpon and rare permits. According to the owner of P.L.. we spent some time in Belizean waters.
There is a small town on the eastern shore accessible by car , and at least one local that will take you out in a ponga. We saw him with a customer the one day we fished the bay. We saw a very largenumber of bones but, unfortunately, we caught few fish because of the wind. We did get one cast at some large tarpon, but lined them because of the wind.

In the summertime, Paradise lodge fishes in the surf right in front of their lodge for bones. However is the wind is out of the east, the water will be murky, and the fish will be in deeper water.
03-21-2004 01:11 PM
slipangle
go-it-alone bones-Thanks!

Thanks for the help folks!

Especially, thanks to Frank for all the time he took to forward me many messages he had on file regarding fishing in Yucatan.

I did read one that said a fishing license is definately required to fish within the Sian Kaan Preserve. Said he was checked several times up near Boca Paila (sp?).

I understand this permit can be obtained through any Mexican consulate so I'll check with the one closest to me.

We will be renting a small car and driving. The place we're booked is not a fishing lodge but located very close to the Paradise Lodge, apparently. I guess this is roughly 10 to 30 kilometers south of the Sian Kaan Preserve. Somewhere in that area, right on the coast. Web site says 4 1/2 hours by car south of Cancun. So, yes, we will miss the area on the north side of Sian Kaan. We MAY have to try and upgrade our choice of car, however, as it sounds like getting around in or near Sian Kaan could be somewhat tricky. I did find out that the three major rental companies no longer rent VW beetles, despite what one of their websites states. I wasn't exactly looking forward to a Beetle, having owned one some 30 years ago, but I figured it would be a good way to blend in and I know they were going little beasts. I used to take mine off road all the time and never had any problems.

I'm really looking forward to it. It will surely be a hit n' miss proposition but I'm sure I can find some fish, if the weather cooperates. Thanks again!

Slip
03-20-2004 09:55 AM
Adrian Here's a link to a site with some info on saltwater fishing licences for MX.

http://swr.nmfs.noaa.gov/alisth.htm

I don't know the Espititou Santo area but have fished Ascention Bay. Its pretty remote down there but I think there are a few more lodges now. Part of the challenge might be finding wadeable flats where you don't need a boat. The Ocean side should be wide open and a great place to explore.
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