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04-07-2004 02:22 PM
flydoc Hank- thanks for the advice on the stabilizer....on the website they say it's for the older models, but I may call them to see if it would fit on the 420x (or whether it's already got one). I have a patient who works as a kayaking instructor, so maybe I'll get a few lessons from her so as not to end up at the bottom of Nantucket Sound....(I did order life vests, but one can never be too careful!). Will definitely bring it along on the FFF Yakbone, where/when-ever that may be!

P.S. SeaEagle does sell rod holders on the site- I ordered a couple for mine.
Shep
04-07-2004 08:55 AM
juro John, talk about the ultimate field test for your creations and fodder for many more patterns to come!
04-07-2004 08:48 AM
striblue I have already cleared any yakbone trip with home... and that will be the best trip...camping out on the islands.
04-07-2004 07:52 AM
Henry
Hey Flydoc

The 14 footer eh? That model wasn't available when we shopped for our 380. Make sure you order the stabilizing rudder!!! Without it, you can experience some power wasting tail waggle and directional control.

One day, we forgot to bring the foot pump DOH!!!, while my buddy drove back to our cottage, I decided to attempt to inflate it via mouth. Well, it worked! Whew! I was dizzy and out of breath and the inflation pressure was nowhere near spec. but after a few minutes in the sun, the expanding air soon brought the craft up to near normal rigidity. It's good to know that this is possible incase of pump failure.

Tight loops, and good paddling

Henry
04-06-2004 06:57 PM
flydoc Hank- call me a pushover (or just compulsive), but I just ordered a 420x Pro on the SeaEagle website. Looking forward to "field testing" it around Monomoy and on the Nickerson ponds when it arrives.....hopefully I won't end up drifting out to Nantucket!!!

Juro- this post in no way represents an ad for or endorsement of SeaEagle kayaks, and I have received no compensation (except the usual rush I get with compulsive purchases) for this post. I just couldn't help myself after reading Hank's posts. Sorry! See ya at CAC May 14....
Shep
04-06-2004 03:54 PM
Adrian And don't foget the Permit and Tarpon. That be GRANDSLAM country up there

A week paddling and fishing uncharted cays sounds like an awesome trip. I would be wary on time of year. Temperatures don't fall too low but as Henry experienced, it can blow like hell down there - often for days at a time. I would wait until May / early June for settled weather.
04-06-2004 03:08 PM
flydoc Juro- sign me up! I'll just need to stock up on some Breath-Right strips before we head down....
Shep (aka "Jackhammer")
04-06-2004 12:51 PM
juro I contacted the Bahamian government and they informed me that other than private islands, the Exuma Cays are open to camping as outlined in the Cruising Guide to the Bahamas.

If we go as a group we should enjoy many advantages not the least of which would be good company by the campfire. Going alone could be a little risky, but with a crew of 4, 6 even 8-10 going we could spread the gear out and increase the number of folks fishing for snapper or snorkeing for lobster.

It's not a lot different from going on a hunt or camping in the north country - just we get to do it in winter, you can't freeze to death, and there are bonefish.
04-06-2004 11:53 AM
Henry
Funny you should mention that...

We met an elderly couple in Nassau who were just about to embark on a 10 day ocean Kayak trip of the Exuma's. Wish I could remember the name of the outfitter they were booked with.

Sounded like an interesting trip (no bonefishing in their plans though) but I'm sure that industrious persons such as ourselves could rectify that.


Hank
04-06-2004 11:39 AM
juro Not at all Hank, I thought it was ironic that I had already talked to them!

You're right, there is a very big opportunity for them if they will listen to communitites like us to work with us on a flats vehicle that packs in the suitcase.

Note on the article I provided to the climbing maniac dude's site... two couples stayed on a tent platform constructed from three inflatables braced together with a platform sitting on extended oar handles on the water!

Now my interests would be more toward a standing sight fishing platform like you mentioned, pontoons would be an easy way to achieve that.

I'll bet a bivy sack in the kayak pulled up on the sand in a calm lagoon would be very comfortable, provided the splashing tarpon didn't keep you awake!

One of these days I am going to do a Cay-hopping yak camping trip. Maybe we could arrange such a trip with fellow forum members as a group. The Yakbone II.

The yak eliminates the rental car, the hotel, and meals are where we make them. Cheap trip and bonefish at your doorstep.
04-06-2004 10:45 AM
Henry
Well slap me repeatedly under the britches!!!

What was I thinking!!!!!!!!!?

Here I go plugging a potential sponsor without even realizing it. I "did" send them one of the photo's too to enter in their photo contest.

Sorry to the Board moderators and owners/operators for my blunder. Never let it be said that my heart isn't where my Avitar is...LOL!

I'll fire them an Email Juro supporting what you've already likely said. If they miss the boat on this one, they'll likely be turning their back on a whole new burgeoningsegment of the market that they've never realized existed.

Heck, I've even got a couple of suggestions that would make the kayak even more bonefisher friendly...ie) rod holders and outrigger pontoons for standing stability.

Once again (tounge in cheek)...shame on me!

Hank
04-06-2004 10:34 AM
juro Good tip, thanks. As a Monomoy flats addict, I use the slow hand often. It depends on what the fish are doing.

Per Sea Eagle... (tongue in cheek) our policy requires that you contact them suggesting sponsorship in your own words, but it's too late! I've already contacted them about it and they are a fantastic group of folks. Did you know they also make Panther Martin lures?

If any of you young bucks out there think you're a hardcore kayak expeditionist, check out this dude....

http://www.mattmaddaloni.com/News%20...%20Soloing.htm

Living on the edge for sure.
04-06-2004 10:27 AM
Henry
SeaEagle Kayak

Just a quick note to the Manufacturers of our SeaEagle 380 Kayak...Great product!!! Some folks hear the word "inflatable" and instantly presume it's nothing but a toy...NOT!!!. This is one serious peice of equipment. When properly inflated, it is as rigid and stable as a hardshell. We were very impressed with it's ease of setup and stability as we were with it's storage capacity and ease of paddling.

Mega-Cudo's to SeaEagle for making such a fine product. Weighing in at just under 70lbs and the entire works capable of fitting into a 32inch large suitcase gives this package the ultimate amount of virsatility to the travelling angler/paddler.

Just had to add that,

Hank
04-06-2004 10:14 AM
Henry
Spooky fish

Good points Juro and I'm sure you'll do well.

One point you should strongly consider..."Strip slowly on spooky bones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Many times I managed to drop my fly into pods of fish without spooking them...then...on the first 3-6 inch quick strip, the fish took off as though stung by a bee.

Educated bones are used and conditioned to the tactics of most fishermen and respond accordingly. Slow it down and don't hesitate to lead the fish by long distances and let the fly rest. My buddy did this and by far outproduced me in that department.

Definitely a tactic worth keeping in your back pocket!

Hank
04-06-2004 10:05 AM
juro Thanks for the further detail. We will have an inflatable with us, most likely the same one as yours looking at the pics.

As far as the two-hander, I just want to clarify that these are 10-11ft rods with a light touch. They are just over 7oz and easy to single hand cast, but fun to double. My experiences on the flats leads me to believe the following:

a) what spooks fish the most about casting is the motion of the angler: grinding of sand under his feet, swirling of legs, rapid twisting of torso, pumping of arms, and then finally the rod sweep. This new light Atlantis literally requires only about an 8 inch motion of the upper hand and a tuck by the lower hand with the elbow close to the ribs to throw a dart of a cast accurately at a target up to 40-50ft. The tip is about 8 inches longer from the top of the grip compared to a 9 footer, the length is primarily in the handle.

I know experienced flats rats like you have minimized the casting reaction already but my point is that I don't think this new prototype will add any spook factor, in fact I believe it will greatly reduce it.

b) the less strokes made by the rod, the less fish spook. One stroke is ideal. By playing with the line design, you can cast as well with only a single stroke using the fulcrum method.

c) the motion required to cast backwards while sight fishing (due to crosswind) is much greater, where with a two-hander a cross body cast requires no more effort (or motion) than strong side.

d) clearing the line over coral is important to prevent loss of bones on the run. These rods are easy to hold high off the coral while not being too long to land the fish.

This trip is an important phase of my field qualification for the current model prototypes, I will know precisely what these rods can do on the flats when I get back as I will only be fishing the following CND models during my stay for purposes of approval toward production / avail in North America:

- Atlantis All-arounder Proto#3 11' (finesse taper, strong butt)
- Atlantis All-arounder Proto#2 10'9" (little beach rod with guts)
- Tracker 9'8" 6/7/8 over/under (bonefish single/double?)
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