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03-08-2001 10:57 PM

Good feedback... but if I understand correctly, the ULA Saltwater/Spey is the rugged older brother of the ULA Force and Purist series reels. From what I've heard it's built stout, has a higher torque conical sealed drag system and room for 300 yards of 30# test backing over a full flyline! The catalog shows it's use in a Spey rodder's hands and it definitely looks the part. I'll be looking for it at the fly show here in the northeast (Wilmington MA) this weekend.

My 2001 reel strategy du jour is to get the Canyon #4 to match the RPLXi (like Mr.Doogue) and am now considering the ULA/SWS for a new Spey reel (among others).
03-08-2001 10:20 PM

I have heard very good things about the ULAs but at the same time I sort of question the structural integrity of them. They do not seem overely sturdy. For 3 weights they seem okay but for heavy duty Spey/saltwater use I would give them a second thought, escpecially if you truly use and ABUSE your gear.
03-08-2001 05:46 PM

Can't wait to see the Canyon.

I am thinkin' I am going to pick up a Waterworks ULA Saltwater/Spey in the 4.25" size this year... have you seen them? Any comments from you Spey guys?

I think it will double nicely for both SWFF and Spey...
03-08-2001 05:38 PM

My Ross Canyon #5 finally showed up in the mail this afternoon. It looks even better when it's yours and not the property of a fly shop.

As I told my little brother earlier today, the fish don't stand a chance this year.

See you all at the clave.

03-06-2001 09:20 AM

Eddie -

What do you want for the reel / spool?

Would you trade for a brand new LP-4 Lamson w/ standard drag?

03-06-2001 01:21 AM

Juro, I have a Lamson Permit(and a couple of spools) that I would love to ...uh..sell/trade. This reel would be perfect for a #9, except that the cork keeps delaminating from the disk. This has happened three or four times(there are two sides of cork and I can reel both ways). This was a common problem for these reels. Old Florida uses plyobond to glue their cork, now all I need is some appropriate cork. I wonder if Light Speed even services these any more. I'll have to give 'em a call.
03-05-2001 06:12 PM

Willie. I agreee... true classics. I have an old Hardy perfect, circa 1940 and it is great to hold and works like a watch. I know what you mean about the sound. I use it for freashwater along with a Hardy featherweight, Marquese #6 and I have some of the Orvis CFO's which are made by Hardy. All my saltwater reels are not Hardy ,but for Freashwater they are indeed classics. I am thinking of getting the repro Bougee( I know the spelling is wrong,but you know the one).
03-05-2001 05:02 PM
Willie Gunn

I use a 4 1/4" Hardy Perfect it may be a bit on the heavy side and does not have disc drag. But just listen to the noise as a salmon pulls out line.

All a salmon fly reel does is store line. All you need is something that looks good, feels good, and stores the line and backing.

Classic or what ?
03-05-2001 09:27 AM

I don't think they are 'ugly' - just a little space aged looking. I think they seem a little distant from the Hardy's of the world in terms of appearance but in terms of features it's a pretty amazing reel.

My prediction is that they will see the Canyon taking some of their claims to fame out from under them and come out with a nice ultra-large arbor, sealed conical silky smooth drag reel in the black or gun-metal gray genre next year.

What I wouldn't do to put the lightspeed drag in all 5 of my Lamson LP's!!!

BTW - I have only had one clutch give out in all the years I've been using the Lamson LP's... and it was the newest one! I think their growth from a bunch of Boeing machinists to big business did them in.

Remember the full cork drag Lamsons like the bonefish and the tarpon? Now that was a package worth searching for. I'm off to EBay!
03-05-2001 02:02 AM

I think I have mentioned this before but the Canyon's are amazing reels. We sold one to a freind of ours who lives in Mass and he loves it. Bought a couple of spools too, I believe. And like you guys, he is striper fisherman. And like Juro has said, you can not beat the price. Plus I love the totally encased drag.

And now for a comment or two about the Lamsons. It seems that over the years, if there is one real that has cult following, away from the classics, are the LPs. There are some that hate them and there are many that love them. They are workhorse reels. A finish that takes the abuse like no other. Plus they are light and have a smooth drag system. And they are not expensive. There are some that do not like them because when they get wet, the drags do tend to spin.

I love the Litespeeds. I have my own w/ an extra spool in the mail right now. I have fished with them and they are FANTASTIC!! A freind of mine fished his on the Kispiox along with his LPs. He is true to his LPs but after fighting one super hot Kispiox fish after another he came to the conclusion that the Litespeeds are above the LPs by far. They are a lighter reel, unlimited drag adjustments, super strong drag system that is not only silky smooth but will not over run no matter how fast line is stripped from the reel on the lightest drag setting. Plus they have literally no parts that can break or detoriate, unlike the LPs. Anyone who has fished the LPs hard for years knows about the problems that the LPs have with their clutches. A quick and easy fix but still a pain in the butt.

But like has been mentioned in many places before the Litespeeds are UGLY. They are not a pretty reel no matter how you look at them. So with that I really sat down and played around with the Velocitys and the Litespeeds and compared the two to the best of my ability. Same drag systems but the Velocity is a prettier reel.

My conclusions were that the Litespeed has a larger arbor and tended to pick up line faster then the Velocitys (one point for the Litespeeds), also the drag adjustments on the larger Velocities seem to be very inconsistent among each reel. Some will have the unlimited adjustments like the Litespeeds and others seemed to have very large jumps in drag tension between adjustments (one point for the Velocities).

Since that I was looking for the most functional reel, I swallowed the ugliness of the Litespeed and ordered one of those. I would have gone with the Canyon but sadly Ross does not have the killer spiff program for its dealers that Waterworks/Lamson does. You can not beat a free reel and a spool!!!
03-01-2001 01:35 AM

The Canyon looks to me to be the perfect inshore reel. Not too light, easy change spools, enough capacity, smooth and a very gradual drag adjustment(not common among the non-cork drag reels), a drag that, while not sealed, is well protected, good looking and well priced to boot.
I have only fished with my Canyon #5 once. No fish, but the sound of the clutch gears now has a more muted sound. It's been a couple of weeks so everything should have dried out. It feels normal, just sounds different. I'll keep you posted.
I'm not so sure about the Loop Traditional reel on the beach. Those wheels hate the sand. Nice reels though.
02-28-2001 06:27 PM

Tom...I'll be bringing an almost new Billy Pate Tarpon to the Wilmington Show for the benefit of another interested friend...if he turns it down ($325), you might consider a look. Cheers
02-28-2001 02:37 PM

Hello TomD:

I would recommend the Islander no. 3. I have one and love it - however it is a little heavy for my nine weight. I was thinking about putting it on ebay and getting the no. 2 instead. If you are in the market for a tarpon reel for 11-12 weight rod and are interested in looking at an Islander, I could save you some bucks. It is in mint condition. Let me know -

Bill Roche
02-28-2001 08:16 AM

just curious. if you were to buy a reel for an 11/12wt rod for tarpon etc... what would you suggest guys??? Tom D
02-28-2001 08:16 AM

Wow, fifteen responses on reels and no one has even mentioned Reddington. No cork drag, but if you want well machined, light weight, true large arbor option, maintenance-free sealed drag at a great price.....

It's not a Bauer but it's very smooth and has a great lifetime warranty which I fortunately haven't had to use.
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